College Degrees?

[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by thecarfilmer

Trying to get my degree as a Business major.

It's what I did my undergrad in. I think it's very versitile, but something you have to make use of on your own. Set long term goals and decide how to use your schooling to accomplish them

[Cop]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

That's really not true. Now, I do not believe that a college degree is right for everyone or best for everyone, but to say that you can't apply degrees in real life is completely inaccurate. You absolutely can, and a great people do, but you have to choose to. The degree itself doesn't innately make you better.

Out of curiosity what does your post undergrad work experience look like?

[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by Cop

Out of curiosity what does your post undergrad work experience look like?

I didn't work post undergrad, I went straight to my doctoratw. However, knowledge gained in education doesn't have to accumulate to "completion" (a degree) before it can be utilized. I have done some consulting work for small companies, I have sold guitars and guitar wquipment, I have sold insurance, and then began my career as a market researcher.

[UFO]

Left school at 16 to work in a factory and did my apprenticeship making pressure gauges, there's no graduation in the UK and I left with 1 "O Level" (GCSEs now I believe). Moved to the US at 28 and gained my Associates in something computery (could only come here on an F1 student visa), I do have some credits for my computer science BS but me and school do not get along so I binned it. Currently a level 2 systems engineer for the largest death care provider in the US, I do pretty well for myself and don't think my lack of a real degree has ever really hindered me (I do have a shit tonne of experience too though).

[p1l0t]

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[Cop]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

I didn't work post undergrad, I went straight to my doctoratw. However, knowledge gained in education doesn't have to accumulate to "completion" (a degree) before it can be utilized. I have done some consulting work for small companies, I have sold guitars and guitar wquipment, I have sold insurance, and then began my career as a market researcher.

It sounds weird to me that you would say something like "you can't apply degrees in real life is completely inaccurate" when you have very little experience outside of school. It depends on the field you are studying and career you are pursuing but I would say that the majority of subjects you study in school have little to no practical application and most things are learned on the job. This is my opinion from personal experience and conversations with coworkers / bosses (consultants from top tier firms, senior execs, business analysts, etc). 99.9% of my post undergrad skill set was developed at work, even though I followed an arguably linear career path out of school (based on my degree).

[Cop]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

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I'd be interested in seeing the actual article if you have a link to it.

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by Cop

I'd be interested in seeing the actual article if you have a link to it.

It's not a really in-depth article, and to be fair anyone who does meet all those criteria really has no need to be single for more than a day.

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[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by Cop

It sounds weird to me that you would say something like "you can't apply degrees in real life is completely inaccurate" when you have very little experience outside of school. It depends on the field you are studying and career you are pursuing but I would say that the majority of subjects you study in school have little to no practical application and most things are learned on the job. This is my opinion from personal experience and conversations with coworkers / bosses (consultants from top tier firms, senior execs, business analysts, etc). 99.9% of my post undergrad skill set was developed at work, even though I followed an arguably linear career path out of school (based on my degree).

Every single day, I apply skills I learned earning my BA in philosophy as well as my teaching credential. That's the advantage of a good liberal arts education; you learn to think.

[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by Cop

It sounds weird to me that you would say something like "you can't apply degrees in real life is completely inaccurate" when you have very little experience outside of school. It depends on the field you are studying and career you are pursuing but I would say that the majority of subjects you study in school have little to no practical application and most things are learned on the job. This is my opinion from personal experience and conversations with coworkers / bosses (consultants from top tier firms, senior execs, business analysts, etc). 99.9% of my post undergrad skill set was developed at work, even though I followed an arguably linear career path out of school (based on my degree).

Anecdotal evidence fantastic proof, isn't it?

I have countless friends who have jobs utilizing specific knowledge they gained throughout the course of the degree.

And who says this is little experience? I worked nearly every year of my undergraduate experience, and I made sure to try and apply as much new knowledge as I could. It's no an incredible amount, but it's not as if I have none.

I've learned a lot on the job, and I do think there is no replacement for work experience and the types of knowledge that stem from it, but to day that you can't apply degrees into practice is innacurate. You can, but you have to pay close attention and have goals set so you know what questions to ask. You can absolutely make it through a degree with nothing worthwhile if you aren't involved in it.

[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Every single day, I apply skills I learned earning my BA in philosophy as well as my teaching credential. That's the advantage of a good liberal arts education; you learn to think.

I think philosophy is the most underated degree out there. If I were to structure college degrees, I would make every student take at least three philosophy classes before their senior year.

I wanted to be a lawyer at some point so I took a few, and I have found them to be incredibly useful both in school and in practice.

[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

It's not a really in-depth article, and to be fair anyone who does meet all those criteria really has no need to be single for more than a day.

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I am all of those things except single, hahaha.

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

I am all of those things except single, hahaha.

Likewise

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[Cop]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

Anecdotal evidence fantastic proof, isn't it?

I have countless friends who have jobs utilizing specific knowledge they gained throughout the course of the degree.

And who says this is little experience? I worked nearly every year of my undergraduate experience, and I made sure to try and apply as much new knowledge as I could. It's no an incredible amount, but it's not as if I have none.

I've learned a lot on the job, and I do think there is no replacement for work experience and the types of knowledge that stem from it, but to day that you can't apply degrees into practice is innacurate. You can, but you have to pay close attention and have goals set so you know what questions to ask. You can absolutely make it through a degree with nothing worthwhile if you aren't involved in it.

I didn't say that I was proving anything, I was only stating my opinion based on experience and the experience of others. The main reason I was bringing up your quote was that you were speaking in absolutes which I don't agree with.