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Old 11-03-2015, 05:22 AM   #1
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Second Generation FT86 Confirmed

A second generation of the 86 has been "officially" confirmed from a reputable source: http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...t-sales-growth

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Plug-in hybrid due
Subaru will position its first plug-in hybrid -- due in the 2018 model year -- mainly as a zero-emissions compliance play.

Subaru doesn't plan to sell it in Japan, even though hybrid vehicles account for 18 percent of Japan's light-vehicle market. Subaru will offer the plug-in hybrid only in markets where required by regulations, Yoshinaga said. He declined to disclose which of Subaru's current models will get the hybrid drivetrain.

But he confirmed that Subaru will build a new-generation BRZ coupe with partner Toyota Motor Corp. "We have already agreed with Toyota we will do a full model change. We have not decided when it will be introduced," he said.

The rear-wheel-drive BRZ is the only car sold by Subaru in the U.S. without all-wheel drive; Yoshinaga declined to give details on the configuration of the redesign.

The BRZ was launched in 2012. Toyota sells its version of the jointly developed coupe as the Scion FR-S.

Last edited by STZ; 11-03-2015 at 10:30 PM. Reason: Mixed up update/refresh with 2nd gen due to brain fart - thanks swarb
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:18 AM   #2
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Don't mix up second generation and an update/refresh. Model year 2017 is less than a year away.

2017 is going to be a refresh of the current model and they are probably going to milk it another 2-3 years.
Second generation on the other hand is after they are done with the current generation and probably a few years away as it takes that long to develop a car.
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But he confirmed that Subaru will build a new-generation BRZ coupe with partner Toyota Motor Corp. "We have already agreed with Toyota we will do a full model change. We have not decided when it will be introduced," he said.
The rear-wheel-drive BRZ is the only car sold by Subaru in the U.S. without all-wheel drive; Yoshinaga declined to give details on the configuration of the redesign.


They decided years ago when it would be introduced. What he really means (if that is even an actual quote) is "we have decided not to say when it will be introduced"
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I hope this car doesn't get the hybrid drive train.
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Hopefully I'll be in a position to get a second car when the second gen rolls out! Or perhaps the FT1 depending on how it turns out.
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Old 11-03-2015, 08:27 AM   #6
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I'll just look after my 2013 GT86 and watch the whole thing go south.
Like when the Celica went from RWD to FWD. *shudder*
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I'll just look after my 2013 GT86 and watch the whole thing go south.
Like when the Celica went from RWD to FWD. *shudder*
I have a feeling the second gen (not refresh) will actually be pretty exciting. Something tells me they might surprise us.

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But he confirmed that Subaru will build a new-generation BRZ coupe with partner Toyota Motor Corp. "We have already agreed with Toyota we will do a full model change. We have not decided when it will be introduced," he said.
The rear-wheel-drive BRZ is the only car sold by Subaru in the U.S. without all-wheel drive; Yoshinaga declined to give details on the configuration of the redesign.


They decided years ago when it would be introduced. What he really means (if that is even an actual quote) is "we have decided not to say when it will be introduced"
Exactly what was going through my head when I read that.
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I'll just look after my 2013 GT86 and watch the whole thing go south.
Like when the Celica went from RWD to FWD. *shudder*
Lexus IS is another one that comes to mind!
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Good info, thanks for posting!
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I hope this car doesn't get the hybrid drive train.
Can't see that happening due to extra weight. But it would add some much needed low end torque.
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I have a feeling the second gen (not refresh) will actually be pretty exciting. Something tells me they might surprise us.

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What car has gotten significantly better in the second generation? Especially a sports car? They always get heavier with the edges taken off (some say it's already happened with the new FR-S spring rates being taken from the BRZ).

Well, the ND got lighter but lost even more edge so I guess that's a wash.
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People often mistake advancement with losing the edge. Which Integra was the best? Not the first gen. Which Supra? Which RX-7? There's no rule here. Any new generation of twin will be turboed because of fuel economy requirements. I'd like to see an EV version. That would be a blast.
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