Turn it in for next generation !!!

[Fred Flintstone]

Bought a 2015 after only 4000 miles had the cam gear codes. They fixed it test drove it threw more codes replaced ECU told me it was ready, warmed it up threw more codes before even leaving parking lot. They have had my car for three weeks now. Sounds to me these cars can be very problematic. Bought it for reliability and gas milage since I thought a Toyoto with a Subaru motor would be both. Now I have a chance to lemon law it. Should I ??? How about some feed back. Really like the car would rather wait on next gen motor and maybe by then they will have worked out some of the problems.

[tahdizzle]

Out of the 100,000 units sold. Yours has a problem so now these cars are problematic.

Seems legit.

[TheVoiceOfReason]

These cars are not all that problematic. Sorry for your luck on yours, but its not the norm. If you look on internet forums it's going to seem like every car in the world is problematic because you are looking in a place where people post when there is an issue. Extra anxious people even post thinking things are broken when they are not. Nobody posts and says "My car started today and got me to work just fine." If you wait for the next gen if it ever happens, it will have it's own new car problems.

[Tcoat]

May be more of a Service Department issue then a car issue!

[GotBRZ1691]

You got one of these

[donoman]

Lemon law that piece of crap and get a new one.

[TheVoiceOfReason]

Originally Posted by donoman

Lemon law that piece of crap and get a new one.

He needs to go through a little more before he can do this. Some details about Texas lemon law

from http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/consu...tion/lemon-law


"The Four Times Test

You pass this test if you have taken your vehicle to the dealership for repair

twice for the same problem within the first 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever comes first;

and

twice more during the 12 months or 12,000 miles following the second repair attempt,

and

the problem continues to exist."


There has been only one complete attempt to fix the car, now it is on its second. The problem is the dealership just threw an ECU at it because they didn't actually diagnose it properly. It could be as simple as a bad sensor. Just because they didn't fix the issue the first time doesn't mean you have a lemon, or that the car is problematic. The dealership will get 3 more times(including this one) to fix this specific issue before the OP can actually claim it is a lemon.

[tyrantcf]

What makes you think there will be a next gen motor anyway?

[Itzed]

Your car is the exception, not the rule.

[vgi]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Out of the 100,000 units sold. Yours has a problem so now these cars are problematic.
Seems legit.

Originally Posted by TheVoiceOfReason

These cars are not all that problematic. Sorry for your luck on yours, but its not the norm. If you look on internet forums it's going to seem like every car in the world is problematic because you are looking in a place where people post when there is an issue. Extra anxious people even post thinking things are broken when they are not. Nobody posts and says "My car started today and got me to work just fine." If you wait for the next gen if it ever happens, it will have it's own new car problems.

fyi, i've been monitoring vwvortex and golf mk7 sites for issues with new golf. Considering subaru and toyota have reputation for reliability and vw has just the opposite reputation it's interesting that I don't see any patterns (in fact almost no problems people complain about) besides failed turbos and most of those folks are running tunes with a lot more boost. now vw fixes those under warranty and does address the issue with new revisions of the turbos (even if unsuccessful thus far it seems). of course the car is still under a year out but i would assume the take rate for golf is higher than for brz/frs. now, there are a lot of patterns in brz/frs decent amount of various problems even if only 10-20 cars were reported out of 100000.

so i personally don't think it's ok that almost 4 years later people buy a new car and have major issues.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by vgi

so i personally don't think it's ok that almost 4 years later people buy a new car and have major issues.

Where are these major issues you speak of???
Throwing a code may be a 5 minute sensor adjust.

[vgi]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Where are these major issues you speak of???
Throwing a code may be a 5 minute sensor adjust.

come down dude. i suggest you re-read the op. the car's been 3 weeks at dealership and counting.

now maybe for you a new car throwing cells is nothing to worry about and you personally can disable all codes in ecu in 5mins and be happy.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by vgi

come down dude. i suggest you re-read the op. the car's been 3 weeks at dealership and counting.

now maybe for you a new car throwing cells is nothing to worry about and you personally can disable all codes in ecu in 5mins and be happy.

And his issue applies to all? You think 10 or 20 out of 100,000 is to high?
A handful of issues does not represent major problems for all.
Ya if I was him I would be pissed, if it happens to me I will be pissed, but to make the sweeping judgement that there are these massive problems is just not correct. I still think he has a crappy service department more then a serious issue since even a whole engine replacement doesn't take 3 weeks!
And dude, they teach sentence structure and the use of capital letters in grade 3 don't they???

[vgi]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And his issue applies to all? You think 10 or 20 out of 100,000 is to high?
A handful of issues does not represent major problems for all.
Ya if I was him I would be pissed, if it happens to me I will be pissed, but to make the sweeping judgement that there are these massive problems is just not correct. I still think he has a crappy service department more then a serious issue since even a whole engine replacement doesn't take 3 weeks!
And dude, they teach sentence structure and the use of capital letters in grade 3 don't they???

i see, i've bumped onto one of those knuckleheads that like to argue for nothing spitting around. i'll just ignore you then
And dude, you can use all that you've learned in grade 3 even when you send sms. on top of that, for some dumb pen..jos that assume that all people in the world are natively speaking english, here's a link, educate yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ing_population