Leather Seat Wear - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mikeTee · 08-05-2013, 07:05 PM

Anyways, back on topic, I use lexol leather conditioner to maintain the quality of the leather. Just spray a bit on a cloth and wipe down all the leather components of the car. I highly recommend it. I got the 16.8oz bottle from Walmart, can't go wrong.

bcj · 08-05-2013, 07:33 PM

Lexol is the item. My local internationally known motorcycle seat builder says to use it. Respect his Authoritay!

Works great on gloves and leather jackets. My leather furniture too.

ericmpena · 08-22-2013, 08:18 AM

Great, just noticed yesterday that my driver seat has a small dime sized patch that is faded. Car is barely 2 months old. I'm pretty careful with getting in and out of the car, so I have no idea how it could be wearing down already. Thinking about talking to the dealership. Has anyone gone that route?

David1976 · 09-18-2015, 06:03 AM

There are A LOT of unsatisfied GT86 owners in the UK with premature seat wearing on the bolsters on the leather/alcantara option. My own issue, like many others, has been with peeling leather and heavy cracking around the seat bolster.

I have been pursuing this with Toyota UK Customer Services under a warranty claim unsuccessfully. At first they said it was fair wear and tear (less than 3 years old with 15,000 miles) and now they have changed their stance and said its damage.

This was the latest response.

Dear Mr
Thank you for your email.
I was sorry to read your comments and apologise for the disappointment caused.
I can confirm that, unfortunately, we have been unable to approve replacement of the drivers seat bolster as there is no evidence of a manufacturing defect. I should explain we consider the problem on the leather cover to have been caused by damage, rather than because of fair wear and tear. I appreciate you consider this to be a manufacturing defect and understand this explanation of why we have declined to replace the bolster under the terms of the manufacturers warranty is perhaps semantics and not especially helpful.
I very much regret the frustration caused by our decision. I am sorry we are unable to respond in a more positive manner and I realise our response will come as a further disappointment to you. For this I can only apologise.
Yours sincerely

Samantha
Toyota Customer Relations

David1976 · 09-18-2015, 06:23 AM

S84kam · 09-18-2015, 09:56 AM

wow these pleather materials don't seem to be as durable as the rest of toyota's pleather

NWFRS · 09-26-2015, 01:06 PM

This is why I bought the base FR-S.

I saved a little money on the car itself then did my own thing, exactly the way I wanted. I detest cloth but wasn't impressed by the leather/Alcantara combo in the BRZ. Went with KATZKINS semi-custom seat covers instead, which are made-to-order in California. Lead time was just two weeks. I use GRIOT'S GARAGE 3-in-1 leather conditioner about once each month. Front seats are heated. They say that leather is on it's way out, but I think that's mainly due to people getting lazier. Real leather NEEDS to be conditioned regularly-it's just skin after all. If you can't be bothered to maintain your leather then Alcantara and Vinyl are definitely the better way to go. If you want that leather smell though, I would recommend KATZKINS with no hesitation. The leather is pretty thick, the stitching is durable and it can be ordered in whatever color scheme floats your boat...

S84kam · 09-29-2015, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWFRS

This is why I bought the base FR-S.

I saved a little money on the car itself then did my own thing, exactly the way I wanted. I detest cloth but wasn't impressed by the leather/Alcantara combo in the BRZ. Went with KATZKINS semi-custom seat covers instead

that looks fricken amazing. Best seats i've ever seen on this forum!

How much were they and were they a bitch to install? looks very pro

xdudefromheaven · 09-29-2015, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David1976

I have the same problem with my seat and also I have same one too

NWFRS · 09-29-2015, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S84kam

that looks fricken amazing. Best seats i've ever seen on this forum!

How much were they and were they a bitch to install? looks very pro

Thank you!

They were $2k when all was said and done.

No. I didn't install them myself. I wanted heated fronts and I didn't want to fuss with locating switches or troubleshooting airbags so I dropped the car at my local Toyota dealer for two days. They sent the car to The Leather Company in Everett WA-they did the install. My Toyota dealer gave me a loaner to drive in the meantime-a really anemic little Corolla S with zero-feedback steering. I was so happy to get my little car back.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83712

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82872

Ketchum88 · 09-30-2015, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWFRS

This is why I bought the base FR-S.

I saved a little money on the car itself then did my own thing, exactly the way I wanted. I detest cloth but wasn't impressed by the leather/Alcantara combo in the BRZ. Went with KATZKINS semi-custom seat covers instead, which are made-to-order in California. Lead time was just two weeks. I use GRIOT'S GARAGE 3-in-1 leather conditioner about once each month. Front seats are heated. They say that leather is on it's way out, but I think that's mainly due to people getting lazier. Real leather NEEDS to be conditioned regularly-it's just skin after all. If you can't be bothered to maintain your leather then Alcantara and Vinyl are definitely the better way to go. If you want that leather smell though, I would recommend KATZKINS with no hesitation. The leather is pretty thick, the stitching is durable and it can be ordered in whatever color scheme floats your boat...

Your seats are about on par with the quality of my front/rear reupholstery job. Mine are matched to stock tho

Dave-ROR · 10-12-2015, 12:09 PM

Yeah might had a slight spot on it pretty early in it's life too. Leather will crack overtime and lose some of the dye

Packofcrows · 10-12-2015, 12:23 PM

Oil leather! Will crack but not rip.

xcrowx · 09-04-2016, 01:47 AM

My 2016 with 6,000 miles is beginning to wear on the seat back from my belt rubbing it when I get in and out of the car. I make sure to recline the seat a little before I get out. That seems to have helped. Thinking about asking the dealership to warranty it even though it's not too noticeable yet.

08-05-2013, 07:05 PM	#43
mikeTee Yup. Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: MT Subaru BRZ '13 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 236 Thanks: 93 Thanked 97 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Anyways, back on topic, I use lexol leather conditioner to maintain the quality of the leather. Just spray a bit on a cloth and wipe down all the leather components of the car. I highly recommend it. I got the 16.8oz bottle from Walmart, can't go wrong. __________________

09-26-2015, 01:06 PM	#49
NWFRS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: ‘13 FRS Location: USA Posts: 1,298 Thanks: 3,946 Thanked 1,503 Times in 635 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This is why I bought the base FR-S. I saved a little money on the car itself then did my own thing, exactly the way I wanted. I detest cloth but wasn't impressed by the leather/Alcantara combo in the BRZ. Went with KATZKINS semi-custom seat covers instead, which are made-to-order in California. Lead time was just two weeks. I use GRIOT'S GARAGE 3-in-1 leather conditioner about once each month. Front seats are heated. They say that leather is on it's way out, but I think that's mainly due to people getting lazier. Real leather NEEDS to be conditioned regularly-it's just skin after all. If you can't be bothered to maintain your leather then Alcantara and Vinyl are definitely the better way to go. If you want that leather smell though, I would recommend KATZKINS with no hesitation. The leather is pretty thick, the stitching is durable and it can be ordered in whatever color scheme floats your boat... __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82872

10-12-2015, 12:09 PM	#54
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Yeah might had a slight spot on it pretty early in it's life too. Leather will crack overtime and lose some of the dye __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

10-12-2015, 12:23 PM	#55
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09-18-2015, 06:03 AM	#46
David1976 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: GT86 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There are A LOT of unsatisfied GT86 owners in the UK with premature seat wearing on the bolsters on the leather/alcantara option. My own issue, like many others, has been with peeling leather and heavy cracking around the seat bolster. I have been pursuing this with Toyota UK Customer Services under a warranty claim unsuccessfully. At first they said it was fair wear and tear (less than 3 years old with 15,000 miles) and now they have changed their stance and said its damage. This was the latest response. Dear Mr Thank you for your email. I was sorry to read your comments and apologise for the disappointment caused. I can confirm that, unfortunately, we have been unable to approve replacement of the drivers seat bolster as there is no evidence of a manufacturing defect. I should explain we consider the problem on the leather cover to have been caused by damage, rather than because of fair wear and tear. I appreciate you consider this to be a manufacturing defect and understand this explanation of why we have declined to replace the bolster under the terms of the manufacturers warranty is perhaps semantics and not especially helpful. I very much regret the frustration caused by our decision. I am sorry we are unable to respond in a more positive manner and I realise our response will come as a further disappointment to you. For this I can only apologise. Yours sincerely Samantha Toyota Customer Relations

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S84kam Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: FBRZS Location: Kingston Posts: 268 Thanks: 254 Thanked 150 Times in 83 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	wow these pleather materials don't seem to be as durable as the rest of toyota's pleather

09-04-2016, 01:47 AM	#56
xcrowx Join Date: Apr 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Release 2.0 Location: usa Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My 2016 with 6,000 miles is beginning to wear on the seat back from my belt rubbing it when I get in and out of the car. I make sure to recline the seat a little before I get out. That seems to have helped. Thinking about asking the dealership to warranty it even though it's not too noticeable yet.

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