Tein Flex Z opinion

[aegisdrgn]

Originally Posted by SilverFRS

At 1.2" lower than stock, ended up at -1.8 left, -2.5 right, so I bought cheap SPC lca, not sold on their adjustment method, haven't installed yet, any body weigh in on SPC?

@CSG_David doesn't recommend SPC if you do any sort of performance driving.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...81#post1659981

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by aegisdrgn

@CSG_David doesn't recommend SPC if you do any sort of performance driving.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...81#post1659981

I wouldn't recommend the Flex Z if you're doing anything more than super casual spirited driving.

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I wouldn't recommend the Flex Z if you're doing anything more than super casual spirited driving.

hah, I love that... "super casual spirited driving"

Seems to me that the stock BRZ/FR-S setup is great for spirited driving and occasional track work. Most of us are not track junkies, just guys looking for some driving education and a good time.

Would you say this Tein suspension is better than the stock suspension for track work? (i.e. more than super casual spirited driving)

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

hah, I love that... "super casual spirited driving"

Seems to me that the stock BRZ/FR-S setup is great for spirited driving and occasional track work. Most of us are not track junkies, just guys looking for some driving education and a good time.

Would you say this Tein suspension is better than the stock suspension for track work? (i.e. more than super casual spirited driving)

Absolutely, but it'll wear the damper at an accelerated rate if you're setting the dampers to a setting more suited for track driving. If you're tracking on the street setting, then life isn't really affected.

[tracerit]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Absolutely, but it'll wear the damper at an accelerated rate if you're setting the dampers to a setting more suited for track driving. If you're tracking on the street setting, then life isn't really affected.

Funny, I was just about to come on and ask if riding on 0 clicks would wear the damper faster.

I havne't been too pleased with the Flex Z at 5 clicks coming from stock shocks/Eibach Prokit but after setting it to 0 clicks the car definitely improved handling wise. It's just a tad bit harsh, if I can even call it that, comfort wise. 10 clicks was hilarious and pointless at the same time but a setting I'll use when driving others. It's been two weeks since I've driven on the Prokit so my ability to compare is fading but I have a feeling 2 clicks will be my sweet spot.

[shellslinger]

Originally Posted by tracerit

Funny, I was just about to come on and ask if riding on 0 clicks would wear the damper faster.

I havne't been too pleased with the Flex Z at 5 clicks coming from stock shocks/Eibach Prokit but after setting it to 0 clicks the car definitely improved handling wise. It's just a tad bit harsh, if I can even call it that, comfort wise. 10 clicks was hilarious and pointless at the same time but a setting I'll use when driving others. It's been two weeks since I've driven on the Prokit so my ability to compare is fading but I have a feeling 2 clicks will be my sweet spot.

Definitely interesting to hear. I have the Japanese spec Flex Z's and I find anything close to 3 - 4 clicks its really harsh on the streets especially on Los Angeles roads. I'm also running thicker sway bars as well. But then again, the definition of "harsh" is different for everyone.

[JGalp]

I've had the Flex Z's for a little under a week, got them installed and adjusted with Darin at West end, started of with 7 clicks from stiff in front and 8 in back as the manual suggests, felt very similar to stock and i wanted a little firmer so i went 5 in front 6 in back, still wanted a little more. now I'm on 4 front 5 back. still pretty comfortable but could be a little firmer, might try 3/4 next. haven't reached that point where its uncomfortable for me

[tracerit]

I went in to get an alignment but after seeing my rear camber at -1.9 L, -2.5 R, I'm considering getting LCA to bring them both to -1.5 L/R. I'm not sure if it's worth $200 (for SPC LCA) to fix that just for mainly highway driving. Opinions?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by tracerit

I went in to get an alignment but after seeing my rear camber at -1.9 L, -2.5 R, I'm considering getting LCA to bring them both to -1.5 L/R. I'm not sure if it's worth $200 (for SPC LCA) to fix that just for mainly highway driving. Opinions?

-2.5 is on the higher side for purelys treet use, but not too extreme. I'd say keep an eye on your tire wear, and rotate tires with the fronts to even it out.

The LCA would allow you to even it out...

[tracerit]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

-2.5 is on the higher side for purelys treet use, but not too extreme. I'd say keep an eye on your tire wear, and rotate tires with the fronts to even it out.

The LCA would allow you to even it out...

After reading multiple threads and with your input, I'll do exactly that. The question now is should I match the front camber to something along the lines of -2.0 L/R tro bring it in line with the uneven -1.9/-2.5 L/R rears? My original plan was:
Camber Front -1.5
Camber Rear -1.5
Toe Front -0.05 (for slightly better turns)
Toe Rear 0.05 (for highway stability)

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by tracerit

After reading multiple threads and with your input, I'll do exactly that. The question now is should I match the front camber to something along the lines of -2.0 L/R tro bring it in line with the uneven -1.9/-2.5 L/R rears? My original plan was:
Camber Front -1.5
Camber Rear -1.5
Toe Front -0.05 (for slightly better turns)
Toe Rear 0.05 (for highway stability)

Is your priority grip or tire life, because right now, you're contradicting yourself...

Lets make a scale of 10 total points. Split those 10 points between tire life and turning/cornering grip.

[tracerit]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Is your priority grip or tire life, because right now, you're contradicting yourself...

Lets make a scale of 10 total points. Split those 10 points between tire life and turning/cornering grip.

7/10 tire life, 3/10 grip.

I phrased my question after reading a few comments in this thread (post #11 and down)http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=control+arms Seems a few posters mentioned if one is running a certain camber in the rear, why not match the front as well. Since I can't change the rear without LCA (which I plan not to at this point), I'm c urious if I should match the front to the rear or keep the rear at the original -1.5 that I had planned. Hopefully that made sense, all this suspension talk is new to me haha.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by tracerit

7/10 tire life, 3/10 grip.

I phrased my question after reading a few comments in this thread (post #11 and down)http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=control+arms Seems a few posters mentioned if one is running a certain camber in the rear, why not match the front as well. Since I can't change the rear without LCA (which I plan not to at this point), I'm c urious if I should match the front to the rear or keep the rear at the original -1.5 that I had planned. Hopefully that made sense, all this suspension talk is new to me haha.

I'd say run 1/16" toe-in front and rear. Get camber bolts to reduce front camber.

[zc06_kisstherain]

Originally Posted by tracerit

7/10 tire life, 3/10 grip.

I phrased my question after reading a few comments in this thread (post #11 and down)http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=control+arms Seems a few posters mentioned if one is running a certain camber in the rear, why not match the front as well. Since I can't change the rear without LCA (which I plan not to at this point), I'm c urious if I should match the front to the rear or keep the rear at the original -1.5 that I had planned. Hopefully that made sense, all this suspension talk is new to me haha.

I am new to suspension as well but i would get LCA.
do it at one time!
I got good deal on used Cusco LCA. i saw some used one on forum for used. grab those.

I need time to install mine..question is what setting i need to go with...