Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by AppleSauce

what other company r we talking about?

Not my original comment, but I'm guessing cosworth?

[GSpeed]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

As much as I like Edelbrock and respect their engineering/manufacturing capabilities, I doubt they are willing to put so much development on this as said "other" company. The 86 is still a relatively small market for them compared to their other products. Time, results and our $$$ may change that I suppose...

I think you'll see more and more of this. Rapidly advancing technologies like 3D printing, 3D scanning, and affordable 3D design and analysis software are keeping development costs low for low-volume markets, which allows things like this to become feasible.

Speaking from first-hand experience, it's SO much easier to iterate in Solidworks-land than it is to iterate in "real life." I can run several dozen structural analyses faster and cheaper, and load test the outcome to validate the analysis rather than test ALL the designs I think will work.

Jake

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by PST

I think you'll see more and more of this. Rapidly advancing technologies like 3D printing, 3D scanning, and affordable 3D design and analysis software are keeping development costs low for low-volume markets, which allows things like this to become feasible.

Speaking from first-hand experience, it's SO much easier to iterate in Solidworks-land than it is to iterate in "real life." I can run several dozen structural analyses faster and cheaper, and load test the outcome to validate the analysis rather than test ALL the designs I think will work.

Jake

Agreed, I guess my comment was more about edelbrock developing their own simulation suite. Like you mentioned, there are plenty of software out there that can get you 90% close to actual results, which is great for designers, but not so good for us test engineers... Not a lot of jobs out there that would pay me to break stuff

[FuzzyFunk]

Originally Posted by ConElite

I know they do endurance testing on the rollers to simulate heavy loads and back to back WOT runs to try and get the cars to overheat and so on. As for altitude testing, I highly doubt ANY supercharger manufacturer does that.

Update- Just talked to a buddy at Edelbrock and they in fact altitude test, heat soak and torture test (in death valley) all their E-Force systems.

Yup! They are doing this on their test/race brz. My AT did not go through all the torturous testing like their BRZ has. I can't wait to see the results on that brz. Mine was specifically for CARB testing only. I know I still have to loan them back my car for the emissions test come in a few weeks but they were so confident with their work that they barely put any miles on my car when I got it back. Not sure how much mileage they will put on it during emissions test but I was told the test will only last about 4 days at most (hopefully) unless they find an issue which I don't believe they will.

[sobrz]

Am I the only one eagerly awaiting FuzzyFunk's first driving impressions?
@FuzzyFunk: I'm concerned you haven't shared anything yet. I'm wondering whether it's "press embargo", or whether your kit is underwhelming / has issues (hoping it's the embargo)

[Alltezza]

Originally Posted by PST

I think you'll see more and more of this. Rapidly advancing technologies like 3D printing, 3D scanning, and affordable 3D design and analysis software are keeping development costs low for low-volume markets, which allows things like this to become feasible.

Speaking from first-hand experience, it's SO much easier to iterate in Solidworks-land than it is to iterate in "real life." I can run several dozen structural analyses faster and cheaper, and load test the outcome to validate the analysis rather than test ALL the designs I think will work.

Jake

Not to sound like a dumbass but are these SC 3D printed? It's not that im against it I just thought it was pretty cool.

[ajc209]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Not my original comment, but I'm guessing cosworth?

Bingo!

[avishenoy1]

In all likelihood, Cosworth probably spent more time and money on testing and engineering their SC kit, which is why it costs $2,000 more.

However, I highly doubt Edelbrock would offer a 36,000 mile powertrain warranty worth up to $16,500 without doing a fair bit of testing themselves.

[GSpeed]

Originally Posted by Alltezza

Not to sound like a dumbass but are these SC 3D printed? It's not that im against it I just thought it was pretty cool.

They 3D printed a mockup to test out fitment, locations of mounting holes, etc. That way they first casting run has a much higher chance of working right.

[JDsThatGuy]

Originally Posted by PST

I think you'll see more and more of this. Rapidly advancing technologies like 3D printing, 3D scanning, and affordable 3D design and analysis software are keeping development costs low for low-volume markets, which allows things like this to become feasible.

Speaking from first-hand experience, it's SO much easier to iterate in Solidworks-land than it is to iterate in "real life." I can run several dozen structural analyses faster and cheaper, and load test the outcome to validate the analysis rather than test ALL the designs I think will work.

Jake

3D printing is revolutionizing the manufacturing business and a companies abilities around a quick NPI, I hope to see more companies/industries doing this

[JoeC]

Man, I really want this.

Not even joking, I actually had a dream last night about installing it on my car. It was a pretty straightforward process from what I recall, hahaa

[FuzzyFunk]

Originally Posted by sobrz

Am I the only one eagerly awaiting FuzzyFunk's first driving impressions?
@FuzzyFunk: I'm concerned you haven't shared anything yet. I'm wondering whether it's "press embargo", or whether your kit is underwhelming / has issues (hoping it's the embargo)

Sorry I did not get a chance to really drive the car this weekend on my own and give you guys feedback. Getting married next month so my fiancé and I have been running errands every time we are off.


Just daily driving it at 2-3K RPM with traffic it starts to pull. Past 3K, it just wants to GO GO GO! I had to adjust to it as I have a pretty heavy foot. My MPG has taken a massive dive now being in traffic with the sc. I feel like it's angry at me that I'm not using its full potential. I have not gone WOT on it yet but when I do, I'll be sure to give you guys my feedback.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by JoeC

Man, I really want this.

Not even joking, I actually had a dream last night about installing it on my car. It was a pretty straightforward process from what I recall, hahaa

Driving impressions? :p

[SkiRideDrive]

Originally Posted by FuzzyFunk

Sorry I did not get a chance to really drive the car this weekend on my own and give you guys feedback. Getting married next month so my fiancé and I have been running errands every time we are off.


Just daily driving it at 2-3K RPM with traffic it starts to pull. Past 3K, it just wants to GO GO GO! I had to adjust to it as I have a pretty heavy foot. My MPG has taken a massive dive now being in traffic with the sc. I feel like it's angry at me that I'm not using its full potential. I have not gone WOT on it yet but when I do, I'll be sure to give you guys my feedback.

You have far more patience than I.