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Old 08-11-2015, 01:47 PM   #15
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Are you implying that it's extremely conservative or bad?

Given how much of your UOA thread I've read, leaning towards the former...
I'm implying it's what one would follow if they had no other reference point for oil condition.

If you are doing UOA and still adhering to a manufacturer's recommended interval, it's a waste of UOA money. Your interval should be determined by additive consumption and oil condition + driving conditions.

The interval is just meant for a catch-all scenario that covers all types of drivers under all types of conditions that the manufacturer has tested. And based on my own UOA, even w/ track events I'd lean towards changing the oil at longer intervals as it is holding up nicely.

But what I said still stands: follow the change intervals if you have no other car experience.

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I know what you mean, but I wouldn't go as far as saying color has no determination of condition.
My OE fill oil after 1600 miles in the first post:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39983

My ENEOS Sustina after almost 10k looked better.
YMMV.

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It is interesting that the period is different in Canada, perhaps weather related?
I wondered the same or maybe type of fuel, octane availability, ethanol content or regulations? Lots of EU cars have 10K-15K change intervals on synthetic, but their oil spec is better than most like Mobil 1 European formulas I run in all of my vehicles after the free maintenance expires.

It also comes down to enjoying putting the car up on stands and sliding around underneath to better appreciate what the designers and engineers gave us. The life of a car nerd, eh?
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I'm relatively sure that if they made an "official" change that would impact warranty and such they would have to send out an update to the manual. I'm about 100% sure they would not still be publishing a PDF of the 2013-2016 model year manual online that was incorrect.
And after looking for it from an official source, I'm now 100% sure that the recommended oil change interval was reduced for 2015, per Subaru:

http://drive.subaru.com/fall13_modes.aspx?page=4
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Doesnt surprised me at all, some porsche models are 12k miles/12mo interval.
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And after looking for it from an official source, I'm now 100% sure that the recommended oil change interval was reduced for 2015, per Subaru:

http://drive.subaru.com/fall13_modes.aspx?page=4
Very odd that they changed everything in 2015. I was pretty much referring to just the Scion recommended oil change, which did not change. Apparently with the Subaru the mileage does vary....
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I was pretty much referring to just the Scion recommended oil change, which did not change.
I couldn't remember whether it did or not. That just lends weight to the argument that Subaru only did it to get people into the dealership to charge them for service more often.
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Doesnt surprised me at all, some porsche models are 12k miles/12mo interval.
I think you mean 20k/2year...

http://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum...-interval.html
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10K oil change interval on 2015's?

Do it @ 6k if you want to be safe? I think if you alway remember to check your oil lv & look @ the oil itself it's easy to tell when you need an oil change or not. Another thing is you can alway feel your engine? I been on eneos for the last 15k mile. The throttle feel is very different as the oil gets older... 😅 or maybe that's just me? But it starts to feel sluggish over the miles.
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I only read the first and last pages but everyone there is as opinionated (and funny) as here and likely every other performance oriented car/truck forum on the planet.
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With oem oil?
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With oem oil?
Sounds like they have an approved list of oils, chiefly Mobil 1 and a few others.

http://eni-agip.ru/upload/docs/PORSCHE%202012_A40.pdf
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They don't specify an interval based on track driving. I change mine every 5 or 6 days
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Oil is a consumable, as in it also wears with use. I'll change it whenever I please.
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