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Old 08-04-2015, 12:42 AM   #15
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My alignment is broken too

But yeah, I would see if they can fix your toe ><

This is aggressive ! toe out 1 in front , would it affect braking stability ?
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:16 AM   #16
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This is aggressive ! toe out 1 in front , would it affect braking stability ?


1mm toe is nothing to worry about


toe out at the front helps with steering response, as long as it's balanced it doesn't affect stability... so long as you keep your hands on your wheel.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:40 AM   #17
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you toe set up makes me think if you just hold the steering wheel straight as is and you go slowly, your car will drive in large circles. lol
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:06 PM   #18
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Question and I don't mean to derail.
I've read on here that 1/16"-1/8" total toe in the rear is good for tracking. I also did an alignment this weekend and all of my variables on the printout are also in degrees. How does one convert toe in degrees to inches, or am I missing something?
Here's my alignment below (note that at -2 deg camber in the rear that I have no more toe adjustment due to an accident).
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since degrees need to have a tire diameter value, which is variable, on our cars, a 1/16 inch is equivalent to about 0.15 degrees.


0.30 degrees is 1/8 inch.

Toe-in in the rear is certainly good for tracking, it helps stabilize the rear end since the wheel is working to get back in line.


with regards to your alignment, again the tech was lazy at the front of the car, 0.02 in on one wheel and 0.02 out on the other means your steering won't ever be centered.. it's extremely mild.. but still.
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since degrees need to have a tire diameter value, which is variable, on our cars, a 1/16 inch is equivalent to about 0.15 degrees.


0.30 degrees is 1/8 inch.

Toe-in in the rear is certainly good for tracking, it helps stabilize the rear end since the wheel is working to get back in line.


with regards to your alignment, again the tech was lazy at the front of the car, 0.02 in on one wheel and 0.02 out on the other means your steering won't ever be centered.. it's extremely mild.. but still.
.2 * 14 = 2.8.

I don't remember the exact rack ratio, but that .2 degree off at each tire would yield ~ 2.8 deg at the steering wheel.

Now, that said, I've been wondering if it actually is one wheel in and one out. The total toe is 0. Which should only be possible with both wheels in the same or out the same. I'm wondering if it's a really odd rack that measures both sides clockwise (or counter clockwise).

Op, having a steering wheel that's off by 2.8 degs would be very noticeable. Does it appear centered while driving?
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Go make friends with a alignment tech at a good shop. (krispycreme doughnuts works well) As far as the "standard" alignment goes, as long as they're within the specs they see on the computer and it drives straight, theyve done what's required of them. The printout looks jacked up, but its still in the "green". There are small shops that service tuner and track cars with alignment racks, but some of these spots have racks with questionable calibration. I've had mix results at Sears auto. It really comes down the the tech servicing your car. At least they calibrate their machines periodically.

I imagine this is the type of work done when my mom or sister takes their cars to get "serviced" SMH
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with regards to your alignment, again the tech was lazy at the front of the car, 0.02 in on one wheel and 0.02 out on the other means your steering won't ever be centered.. it's extremely mild.. but still.
I was actually pretty impressed overall. I went to a national tire and battery and wasn't expecting much, but they let me go in the bay with the tech and were willing to set it up exactly as I asked with me hovering over his shoulder. They had to raise the car to adjust the camber plates, I think at the same time they adjusted toe. I think it went to that setting when they lowered the car back down. I'll take .02 degrees out :p. Appreciate the help!
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