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View Poll Results: Which Intake Would Is the Best For the BRZ/FR-S
Injen 3 15.79%
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Takeda 3 15.79%
Perrin 3 15.79%
Greddy 3 15.79%
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:51 PM   #29
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I actually did see a thread that dyno tested a bunch of intakes a year or two ago and the only one that was better than stock was the TRD intake. But from memory irs pretty damn expensive compared to just buying an aftermarket filter for pretty much the same result. Dont ask me to find the thread either :P
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:54 PM   #30
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I actually did see a thread that dyno tested a bunch of intakes a year or two ago and the only one that was better than stock was the TRD intake. But from memory irs pretty damn expensive compared to just buying an aftermarket filter for pretty much the same result. Dont ask me to find the thread either :P
There are a couple of independent Dino's done. None of them supported the claims made by the intake manufacturers. Even the TRD results were different between two independent tests. Overall any gains that were found were so low that they fell into the margin of error for dynos.
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I only ever saw the one thread but those results wouldnt surprise me in the least.
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In a perfect world this is true but there are other considerations to take into account. Time to develop a better intake verses return on investment, expertise of designers, cost of manufacture, suppliers pricing (that is, does oem make the part them selves or subcontracted to an external supplier), does the engine still meet emission requirements at 200,000 kilometers? (or what ever Euro 4/5 is ).

Here it is again. I know you already know this but it may have slipped from memory. Ready?

Compromise.
You have not provided an answer, what exactly can be compromised on an air intake?

You've spouted a bunch of costs for developing hardware and implied that Toyota, of all people have shortchanged this car somehow, I'm wondering what exactly is not optimal.

I do not doubt the aftermarket can make improvements over OEM's, this is not the case for modern air intakes.
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I really don't know which intake is the best for our cars but i got injen one.
It felt slight different from stock in performance, did add nice sound tho. Later I felt like it wasn't gettin enough air, so I took top lid off again I felt slight difference in throttle response.
You can argue as much as you want that sucking hot air into engine is bad...owell I been running it for few months now and it's fine as a daily driver and canyon runs. I haven't done track autocross so probably in that case it's better to put lid back on.

I want to either get aftermarket snorkel or hks air duct to see if that's ganna make even more difference. As for now injen gets the job done. Oh lol and one of my friends said my intake is louder than the exhaust lol (hks spec L)

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Old 08-03-2015, 01:49 AM   #35
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I would do the Mishimoto intake as it wouldn't require the MAF adjustment.
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Old 08-03-2015, 02:55 AM   #36
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Which Intake Would You Buy

I hate to be "that guy" but I've read so many different times I can't even count from forum members I know I can rely on that the stock intake is very well-designed and does not need to be replaced. If you're going for a change in sound then go for it but as far as performance goes it's pretty negligent. if you're still NA The most effective/accessible mod as far as I know (and I've done a lot of reading) is a catless header and a tune. Horsepower gains seem to be 15 to 20 and torque gains range from 10-15. That pulse torque dip elimination.

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This statement looks dodgy. You need a dyno chart to validate it.
My personal dyno chart:

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Dyno session was completed on baseline, intake was installed on the dyno in the same hour to control all variables.

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Old 08-03-2015, 06:09 AM   #40
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My personal dyno chart:
Sorry, you missed the flippancy/sarcasm.
I was referring to your statement "this is why nobody trusts forums" that requires the dyno. That is, I was making fun of your statement that can't be trusted because you had posted it on a forum.
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Sorry, you missed the flippancy/sarcasm.
I was referring to your statement "this is why nobody trusts forums" that requires the dyno. That is, I was making fun of your statement that can't be trusted because you had posted it on a forum.
ahhh i missed it completely. Was having a shitty night at work, my brain wasn't forum-functional. lol
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