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Old 07-16-2015, 12:33 AM   #645
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Pretty sure he was joking since he was referencing the silly poems people were writing about the wait for dyno results...
Bad joke then. But if that's the case, my bad.

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Not sure why I was quoted, I wasn't even talking about the manifold. Freaking bizarre people won't post up stock numbers on these heads. Not like that would give away anyone's magic secret sauce.
I got tag happy I guess? Sorry . I know of a few people who have tested these heads. They make their living doing this stuff, if you post that work and R&D, you're giving away part of your pay check. We haven't done any flow testing yet on the head FYI.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:02 AM   #646
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Question, not sure if dumb or not; but for NA what did this header do exactly? Lose a little power low down before some midrange?

Genuinely curious
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:21 AM   #647
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Question, not sure if dumb or not; but for NA what did this header do exactly? Lose a little power low down before some midrange?

Genuinely curious
He already said that he doesn't want to reveal any more about the results. I think he's tired of being pestered about it
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He already said that he doesn't want to reveal any more about the results. I think he's tired of being pestered about it
Haha fair enough; my interest is just oddly piqued.
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He already said that he doesn't want to reveal any more about the results. I think he's tired of being pestered about it
what header are you talking about? This is an intake manifold development thread.
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Still wonder if the manifold would have NA benefits with built heads and a 9k revving motor... Not too surprised it didn't have too many gains on a stock motor.
@NotEric6 do you guys have any plans to test it on a built NA motor? Or just wait until you develop the NA specific manifold?
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Still wonder if the manifold would have NA benefits with built heads and a 9k revving motor... Not too surprised it didn't have too many gains on a stock motor.
@NotEric6 do you guys have any plans to test it on a built NA motor? Or just wait until you develop the NA specific manifold?
That is a possibility we aren't able to test yet as I only felt safe revving my car to 8k. Yes, we of course will. We will test this on any engine.

We don't want to publish what we have tested yet until we get the full picture.
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That is a possibility we aren't able to test yet as I only felt safe revving my car to 8k. Yes, we of course will. We will test this on any engine.

We don't want to publish what we have tested yet until we get the full picture.
Well that's good to hear! Keep up the great work and try not to take all of our comments to the heart (unless they are positive )
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Keep up the great work on this. I look forward to the day I can say shut up and take my money.
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Not sure why I was quoted, I wasn't even talking about the manifold. Freaking bizarre people won't post up stock numbers on these heads. Not like that would give away anyone's magic secret sauce.
Didn't FullBlown do it?

Stock Exhaust Flow @ .500 lift = 170
Stock Intake Flow @ .500 lift = 280

I know they only shared a tiny bit of data mixed in with a sales pitch, and I know that stock lift is only ..... .433? Off the top of my head, so eh..
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what header are you talking about? This is an intake manifold development thread.
The intake manifold goes at the top, or the head, of the engine. Therefore, header.


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Old 07-16-2015, 07:22 PM   #656
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I know of a few people who have tested these heads. They make their living doing this stuff, if you post that work and R&D, you're giving away part of your pay check.
Respectfully disagree. You don't lose any money posting stock CFM. You just clamp a head to a flow bench and read the numbers at various lift. RnD was done by Toyota/Subaru. People make or lose their paychecks after the heads are no longer stock.

How much money is someone losing posting a baseline dyno run? None.
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Didn't FullBlown do it?

Stock Exhaust Flow @ .500 lift = 170
Stock Intake Flow @ .500 lift = 280

I know they only shared a tiny bit of data mixed in with a sales pitch, and I know that stock lift is only ..... .433? Off the top of my head, so eh..
Thanks, got a link? I presume it was for their IM in which case I can search it myself. I must have missed the numbers as I tend to gloss over marketing talk.
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@NotEric6 "The bell horns are adjustable giving the end user more options for tuning and making this a one stop manifold for Boosted and N/A applications." Reread your first post and then relocate this thread under FI.
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