FT-86 "Best in the world" for drifting!

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by 4agze

for me drifting is just learning car control thats why i did it never really considered it as a motor sports cuz, it was up to the judge who wins but its sure is fun to do. people who say its a waste of time wait till your in a situation when your skills on car control depended on it. its like a swiss army knife you dont know when you'll need it, but when you do you'll be glad you know how.

The time I've put into having fun sliding around vacant lots and at a couple of local events (when they happen) has really paid off. I've avoided a couple of disasters just by knowing how to keep the car steady and bring it back out of an oversteer.

[DanZilla]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

The time I've put into having fun sliding around vacant lots and at a couple of local events (when they happen) has really paid off. I've avoided a couple of disasters just by knowing how to keep the car steady and bring it back out of an oversteer.

thats why theres autocross events and your skid pads IMO but yes I guess learning how to countersteer effectively is a good thing to learn

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

You mean Imamura?

Damnit, you got me!

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by DanZilla

thats why theres autocross events and your skid pads IMO but yes I guess learning how to countersteer effectively is a good thing to learn

I used to autocross this car back in the day too. That wasn't as much of a learning factor for me, since I had been pushing the "grip" limits of my cars since I was 16. Basically the most it taught me was how to carry speed through a corner and into the next one, and properly hitting an 'apex'.

I actually used what I learned from drifting in autocross, mainly when they'd setup a 180 degree cone. Instead of coming in and hugging the cone to turn around, I'd just come in slightly too hot, brake hard to throw the weight forward, and turn. Zaboosh! Easily controlled slide around a cone. Unfortunately my emergency brake has never locked my rear, so I've never really been able to use it to initiate a slide.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by DanZilla

thats why theres autocross events and your skid pads IMO but yes I guess learning how to countersteer effectively is a good thing to learn

Auto-x and sliding in the snowing road is different. Cuz, most of auto-x try to keep the car in the grip mode (some auto-x is for FR to drift few cones). Drifting, you learn what happens when you slide, instead of freaking out and scream like a girl.

[micmic]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Auto-x and sliding in the snowing road is different. Cuz, most of auto-x try to keep the car in the grip mode (some auto-x is for FR to drift few cones). Drifting, you learn what happens when you slide, instead of freaking out and scream like a girl.

Try ice racing... less to damage your car with when you slide out of control.

[micmic]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Instead of coming in and hugging the cone to turn around, I'd just come in slightly too hot, brake hard to throw the weight forward, and turn. Zaboosh! Easily controlled slide around a cone. Unfortunately my emergency brake has never locked my rear, so I've never really been able to use it to initiate a slide.

That may have felt fast, but it probably wasn't. I did the same thing in my 01 2.5RS and it took a long time to unlearn those bad habbits. Setting up the corner (entry, apex, & exit) and looking ahead will make you considerably faster.

But, drifting really isn't racing. A sport with judges that pick the winner, just isn't racing. It is more about ability, technique and control. It is like figure skating or diving in that sense (no insult to drifting intended).

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by micmic

Try ice racing... less to damage your car with when you slide out of control.

Less to damage the car? Who said I'm drifting in the street? It's always been in the track, so not even once I have damaged my friend's Silvia.

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Less to damage the car? Who said I'm drifting in the street? It's always been in the track, so not even once I have damaged my friend's Silvia.

I guess he means theres nothing to hit when you slide out of control.
/shrug, an wide open parking lot pretty much does the same thing.

I'd say drift on ice/rain to do less damage to your actual drivetrain.

It could have been faster to just grip all the way, but this wasn't show drifting. It was just a speed drift. Minor oversteer to whip around the cone.

[micmic]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Less to damage the car? Who said I'm drifting in the street? It's always been in the track, so not even once I have damaged my friend's Silvia.

Track as in road course? If so, that's cool...

For those who use empty parking lots (like those used for autocrosses), light poles and curbs are much more common in a parking lot than on a frozen lake. That's all it meant.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by micmic

Track as in road course? If so, that's cool...

For those who use empty parking lots (like those used for autocrosses), light poles and curbs are much more common in a parking lot than on a frozen lake. That's all it meant.

Tell you the truth, I have never done auto-x. All my runs has been track runs. Only closest one that you can count auto-x is Snow-x... but still it was in the track.

[NESW20]

so do we have any news about an LSD option?

-Mike

[KyShro]

Please, please, please dont call it a Celica... horrible idea. Most people dont think of the older Celica's rather the newer ones. I would be embarrassed to say "I have a Celica", even if it is a good car. Crossing my fingers on FT-86 or Sprinter!

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by KyShro

Please, please, please dont call it a Celica... horrible idea. Most people dont think of the older Celica's rather the newer ones. I would be embarrassed to say "I have a Celica", even if it is a good car. Crossing my fingers on FT-86 or Sprinter!

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