Toda 2.3 stroker kit

[celek]

Originally Posted by abraxis

You know what's a stunning waste of money? Someone spending $30K on a 'lightweight' NA DD car only to spend 20% more on top of that to add more weight and complexity when you cloud have just bought a BMW or Mustang (if you're so into the moar powah=better argument).

I have a E46.. XI, and a 2013 WRX...
The BRZ is my DD even in the snow

You call it a waste of money, I call it unique and being innovative, different, creative. My build is completely custom, is it a waste of money... sure but its not your money.

hob·by1
ˈhäbē
Noun

An activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.
Normally considered a waste of money to those with dissimilar interests.

AKA Money pit.

Usage:
Your GT86 hobby is a waste of money on that money pit.

[Bobblehead]

@abraxis @celek

Or we could all get along instead of arguing with strangers on the internet.

Live and let live, is it?

[celek]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

@abraxis @celek

Or we could all get along instead of arguing with strangers on the internet.

Live and let live is it?

Yeah Im just being sarcastic but the forum does not support the font I installed

[themadscientist]

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt

You are a bad scientist, not a mad scientist. People who build NA cars are not the same people who build boosted ones.

That's a steaming crock of shit. Building power NA or boosted uses the same formula, get as much air and fuel into the engine and blown up as completely and well timed as you can and make sure the physical components can handle it. Class over read chapter one in your book "how engines work" AGAIN ad take this note to your parents, you are obviously not applying yourself in class.

My CA18DE Silvia was crazy fun. Stripped down to a steel interior, wrapped HKS 4-2-1 header, HKS muffler, flipped the intake to the driver's side so it didn't ride across the radiator and fed through a slotted corner light, FC3S oil cooler between the headlight, bigger turbo injectors (too big, really) trimmed with an old SAFC, Toda lighweight flywheel, turbo VLSD, KYB suspension, BNR32 GT-R brakes , a mess of Greddy meters, Recaro bucket and a six point cage.

It had zero balls off a dig, but on a roll it sounded and wound up like sportbike and I caught more than a few guys napping. NOBODY believed it was NA, but it was a stock 1.8 set perfect with a good driver behind it who knew how to use all 150hp it dynoed out at the wheels.

The best run was against a carbed out hachiroku, the real 86. Neck and neck every gear. He KNEW what was under my hood because being a NA guy himself the sound hit his ears and the look on his face was priceless "Aw hell no, that's not a non-turbo Silvia, WTF?" That's when my passenger noticed his sneakers were melting. Long WOT run and no carpet and I guess one turn of heat wrap wasn't getting it done.

Starting to see why the BRZ doesn't bother me at stock power? I'm having all sorts of flashbacks to my old Silvia, but this car is so much better in every way, like a mile away, but down the exact same trajectory.

Here's the difference. As much fun as I got out of that 1.8, the idea of boring and stroking it to 2 liters would have been dumb. That engine didn't have that sort of rev ceiling or design strengths to chase that dream. When I ripped the motor down the rod bearings were terminally wiped from stretched bolts. The 4AG in that hachi, though, so much more potential there in a better engine.

Now, when the R winds up and the gate cracks and it takes off like a rocket screaming fire at the road out the gate dump, that's a whole different rush but I love it no more or less.

If you have planted your flag on one paradigm and claimed it "the right way" you're a fool and my 660 turbo truck would have probably taken your lunch money.

The cockpit



First fireup.



The build.

http://minitrucktalk.com/threads/igo...banshee.14316/

You don't have a 4A level engine under the hood of your twin and certaily not an L28 either, sorry, it's almost ALMOST as good as an old CA18. Know your machine and get real.

[themadscientist]

Originally Posted by abraxis

You know what's a stunning waste of money? Someone spending $30K on a 'lightweight' NA DD car only to spend 20% more on top of that to add more weight and complexity when you cloud have just bought a BMW or Mustang (if you're so into the moar powah=better argument).

I absolutely agree. That's why my car is bone stock and will stay that way. I was satisfied off the showroom floor and laugh at all these idiots who knew the motor was adequate at best and entered into the deal knowing they would have to do what you just described to get the power where they wanted it.

Now, as far as the more power argument. I don't think it needs any more power. The torque dip is arguably worth correcting, but I've learned to drive around it quickly. This is a sporty everyday car with some bite and I love it. If doing whatevr you want to do to it makes it better for you, by all means, proceed. I might think whatever you did is stupid, but it's not my car and as much as I don't care what others think about what I do, I don't expect nor suggest you should care what I think about what you're doing.

My buddy laid it out yeterday when I asked him if a turbo kit I am looking at for the GT-R was good he texted back "it's your money."

[WHITE]

Originally Posted by themadscientist

If doing whatevr you want to do to it makes it better for you, by all means, proceed. I might think whatever you did is stupid, but it's not my car and as much as I don't care what others think about what I do, I don't expect nor suggest you should care what I think about what you're doing.

My buddy laid it out yeterday when I asked him if a turbo kit I am looking at for the GT-R was good he texted back "it's your money."

So then why even say anything ij the first place? If you know people arent going to listen to you and theyre going to spend their money how they want, whats the point of calling them out and telling them your point of view about how stupid they are for doing what they want.

[nastynate88]

Originally Posted by abraxis

1-In my world it's my DD. Don't try to imply anything for me, I can manage what I mean on my own without your help, thanks. I have 4 cars and it's the perfect DD for me. Hauls shit, gets great MPG and is fun to drive. A daily driver is not the same as an 'appliance' on wheels. I don't know what world you live in where you can only DD a Corolla. Pretty sure most people that own an 86 use it as a DD whereas most people that have a Miata use it as a toy for example.

2-I wasn't telling anyone how to spend their money. I was arguing against the guy trying to tell other people how to spend their money. So please pay attention next time you jump into a thread and call people out.

I just read your post again, and I completely misunderstood what you wrote. I thought you were railing on OP on his N/A build with themadscientist. Funny thing is I actually agree with you

But also, chill out.

[themadscientist]

Originally Posted by WHITE

So then why even say anything ij the first place? If you know people arent going to listen to you and theyre going to spend their money how they want, whats the point of calling them out and telling them your point of view about how stupid they are for doing what they want.

Might save someone from themselves. I'm a humanitarian.

[Captain Snooze]

Why does anyone think that owning/modding a car is a rational endeavor?

[themadscientist]

It's a sickness, pure and simple.

[endless_pain]

Originally Posted by themadscientist

Might save someone from themselves. I'm a humanitarian.

You sound more like a Fascist.

[themadscientist]

And the award for the most bizarre post on the internet goes to endless pain.

Can't argue effectively for his idea using facts and logic, resorts to name-calling.

[venturaII]

If you have to ask 'why' for a ground-up, max effort N/A build...then you're probably a F/I guy.

[themadscientist]

No, just realistic. This is the wrong engine to throw money at for such a build, wrong F. If it was a F20, I would be 100% behind you. Nothing I hate more than folks ruining an S2000 by boosting that gem of an engine.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FDLMVrwtuw"]HONDA S2000 F20C Kαi : K-Tech tuned engine with TODA ITB ( NA 294HP 29.2kg/m : Rebirth and Dyno ) - YouTube[/ame]



So how about you rub some butthurt creme on your widdle toushy, start using your brain and realize that you are going to spend 10Gs for 20hp and still get walked by a Prius.