Serious Question: Save for possible future BRZ tS, or throw money at current BRZ?

[iSnack0nEmoKidz]

Just buy it and quit trolling yourself.

[nastynate88]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Recaro Sportster CS. Send us a PM if you're interested...there are lots of little things to get right and we've been through the process once. Not cheap though.

- Andy

Thanks for the info, maybe I'll hold off on that for another few seasons :P

[Turbo95eg6]

I think those seats are pretty ugly, and I've had my share of Recaro's.

[Sideways&Smiling]

Doing it yourself with your own carefully selected parts will ALWAYS provide a much more rewarding experience. OEMs are very conservative. You can do much better for the money spent.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Do you already own your car?

Yup all paid off

[sonoobish]

this was a pretty cool description of the way it drives
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...by-sti-driven/

the japan spec one had brembos, recaros, whole different suspension setup, 18 in wheels for what seemed like a decent price. i think price point was somewhere around 36,000 but dont quote me.

but ill trade my BRZ in the SECOND i see a targa top BRZ or FRS

[MikeM7]

I think my BRZ is going to be better than that one anyway by the time I'm done with it. I can't wrap my mind around buying a brand new car, taking that huge depreciation hit, and then doing it again. Just imagine what you could do to your car with that massive amount of money you're talking about wasting. Plus, if you pick your own mods you get to personalize the car exactly how you like it. For example, I'd go with a 5 axis over that ugly wing. I don't like the interior either.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by MikeM7

Just imagine what you could do to your car with that massive amount of money you're talking about wasting. .

I spent as much as the tS would cost restoring a 1970 Subaru, albiet over ~6 years. I don't care about the money, its more about the time I would spend not doing anything and saving up vs. doing things and not worrying about saving for it.

The tS has a lot of things I want to do to my car... More supportive seats, upgrading ALL the suspension bushings, bilstein shocks which I would probably be buying this year, etc.

Looking at the costs for a lot of the tS goodies you can see why it would be a value even if it cost almost $40k:

Recaro Sportster seats - $1500 each ($3000)
Brembo Brakes - ~$2000
Bilstein shocks - $1000
18" STI wheels - $1500
STI carbon wing - $2000
Upgraded tS axles - $1000 each LMAO! ($2000)
Plus all the bushings and other small changes... ($???)

Its a pretty good deal.

[MikeM7]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

I spent as much as the tS would cost restoring a 1970 Subaru, albiet over ~6 years. I don't care about the money, its more about the time I would spend not doing anything and saving up vs. doing things and not worrying about saving for it.

Hate to break it to you but that's pretty much exactly what caring about the money means.

I guess it's a matter of whether or not you like the mods the TS comes with. I personally don't care if it's a 2 thousand dollar wing because I think it's ugly. If those are all things that you want anyway, then yeah sure, probably a good deal.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by MikeM7

Hate to break it to you but that's pretty much exactly what caring about the money means.

Caring about the money would mean I wouldn't want to spend the money.

Its the same amount or so, its just spend it now or save it for later then spend it.

I guess it's a matter of whether or not you like the mods the TS comes with. I personally don't care if it's a 2 thousand dollar wing because I think it's ugly. If those are all things that you want anyway, then yeah sure, probably a good deal.

The wing is actually something STI does with all their special edition JDM cars, going back to the s202 (Bugeye STI from early 2000's). I've grown to like them because of what they signify now, a limited edition rather rare model.

[MikeM7]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Caring about the money would mean I wouldn't want to spend the money.

Its the same amount or so, its just spend it now or save it for later then spend it.

The wing is actually something STI does with all their special edition JDM cars, going back to the s202 (Bugeye STI from early 2000's). I've grown to like them because of what they signify now, a limited edition rather rare model.

It sounds like you already know what you want so you might as well just start saving, eat the loss (sounds like you don't care anyway), and buy the TS.

[EarlQHan]

It's like buying a Cayman GTS vs a Cayman S with X options. Financially, it's only really worth it if you really wanted all those things and were planning on doing those mods in the first place. These cars don't depreciate quickly, but as far as being a collectible, you're talking maybe 40 years down the road before they begin to appreciate. First gen Z's are only now beginning to go up in price. If you're thinking that far ahead, spend the extra on the tS. Look at 911 special editions vs. base 911 prices; not saying these cars will ever get that expensive, but it's an indicator of what the better long term investment is.

[WolfpackS2k]

Honestly there isn't much point in seriously having this discussion if we don't know what the tS will cost over here in the US.

Originally Posted by sonoobish

the japan spec one had brembos, recaros, whole different suspension setup, 18 in wheels for what seemed like a decent price. i think price point was somewhere around 36,000 but dont quote me.

Lol, at $36,000 this car would get laughed out of the US. Anything over $30k for the tS is ridiculously overpriced.

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

The tS has a lot of things I want to do to my car... More supportive seats, upgrading ALL the suspension bushings, bilstein shocks which I would probably be buying this year, etc.

Looking at the costs for a lot of the tS goodies you can see why it would be a value even if it cost almost $40k:

Recaro Sportster seats - $1500 each ($3000)
Brembo Brakes - ~$2000
Bilstein shocks - $1000
18" STI wheels - $1500
STI carbon wing - $2000
Upgraded tS axles - $1000 each LMAO! ($2000)
Plus all the bushings and other small changes... ($???)

Its a pretty good deal.

Except by itself it's not a good deal. You think those Recaros cost Subaru anywhere near that much? Not a chance. And that goes for everything on your list. You're also forgetting to deduct the cost of the items on a stock BRZ being replaced. A fair comparison for the tS is the 90s Integra Type R. It was a few thousand more than the GS-R and had way more performance upgrades (bespoke engine, seam welded and structurally reinforced chassis, upgraded axle hubs, larger brakes, weight reduction etc etc). The tS is a good deal if you're considering adding all those things to a BRZ you already own. But if you're considering buying a new BRZ, then anything more than $2000-3000 over the price of a Limited model is a rip off.

[sonoobish]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Except by itself it's not a good deal. You think those Recaros cost Subaru anywhere near that much? Not a chance. And that goes for everything on your list. You're also forgetting to deduct the cost of the items on a stock BRZ being replaced. A fair comparison for the tS is the 90s Integra Type R. It was a few thousand more than the GS-R and had way more performance upgrades (bespoke engine, seam welded and structurally reinforced chassis, upgraded axle hubs, larger brakes, weight reduction etc etc). The tS is a good deal if you're considering adding all those things to a BRZ you already own. But if you're considering buying a new BRZ, then anything more than $2000-3000 over the price of a Limited model is a rip off.

i was assuming he was comparing prices of buying a tS version to buying a limited or premium and adding all the parts

whats your money worth to you? more power or better handling and some flash this just starts another arguement of "WELL YOU COULD BUY ______ FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY" but what if i want a $50,000 BRZ?!?!?! what can they do for me with that price tag?!?! lol