MT Questions

[Oakhenshield]

Originally Posted by tekFRS234

Q1. I've been pushing the clutch completely in but at times there is a very brief grind as I'm shifting to other gears.

ye im with this.. and sometimes if im shifting it wont let me in lol like theres a high bump in my condo so i really need to slow down then of course i need to change gear back to 1 and it wont go in so i have to release the clutch and step on it again then i realize that it wont with high rpm like 3-4rpm or the speed is below 15 weird.

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by Oakhenshield

ye im with this.. and sometimes if im shifting it wont let me in lol like theres a high bump in my condo so i really need to slow down then of course i need to change gear back to 1 and it wont go in so i have to release the clutch and step on it again then i realize that it wont with high rpm like 3-4rpm or the speed is below 15 weird.

Its a feature to prevent blowing the transnission when miss shift, maybe?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Caspeed

Good post Tcoat. Often the problem is the "Death Grip" people use when shifting.

As far as the 2nd gear cold shift "issue". I have it every now and then, but it's not an problem for me. It feels to me, not like a tranny problem but more, like a clutch not fully releasing or dragging. Which would explain why the synchro resists the shift.

Nah, it's not the clutch. The whole transmission is swimming in molasses when it's cold so as soon as you push in the clutch and drop into neutral, the input side drags to a halt FAST.

It's all in the timing. You don't have to use the death grip but the trick is to not pause in neutral. Move from first to putting a little bit of pressure on the second-gear synchros quickly before the front side has time to spool down. If you're quick, no pressure is required. When the speeds of the gearsets match, it will drop into second like butter.

If you pause in neutral, then the resistance you feel is the second gear synchro having to do all the work to spin the input side back up through the molasses.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Oakhenshield

ye im with this.. and sometimes if im shifting it wont let me in lol like theres a high bump in my condo so i really need to slow down then of course i need to change gear back to 1 and it wont go in so i have to release the clutch and step on it again then i realize that it wont with high rpm like 3-4rpm or the speed is below 15 weird.

Originally Posted by Teseo

Its a feature to prevent blowing the transnission when miss shift, maybe?

Like Teseo said, it's a lockout but not so much to prevent blowing the transmission. It's there to prevent blowing the engine and/or loss of control by accidentally shifting into first instead of third.

I hate lugging the engine. It's really really unhealthy because the oil pressure is so low near idle.

Double clutch into first. With a little practice it'll become second nature.

[tekFRS234]

Update: I drove a lot today, mostly country roads in Newberry, SC and downtown Columbia, SC. I noticed a huge improvement driving the way Tcoat recommended. I just used my fingertips to gently guide the shifter and it was perfect. So, the car is a classy lady and doesn't like it rough.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by tekFRS234

Update: I drove a lot today, mostly country roads in Newberry, SC and downtown Columbia, SC. I noticed a huge improvement driving the way Tcoat recommended. I just used my fingertips to gently guide the shifter and it was perfect. So, the car is a classy lady and doesn't like it rough.

So there we go everybody!
Quit grabbing your knob and just use two fingers.


Glad it worked for you. You will notice you will shift way faster and much smoother when you get really used to it.

[Bergen23]

Originally Posted by tekFRS234

Update: I drove a lot today, mostly country roads in Newberry, SC and downtown Columbia, SC. I noticed a huge improvement driving the way Tcoat recommended. I just used my fingertips to gently guide the shifter and it was perfect. So, the car is a classy lady and doesn't like it rough.

A finger or 2 is all you really ever need. It took @Tcoat the better part of his teenage years to discover that.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Bergen23

A finger or 2 is all you really ever need. It took @Tcoat the better part of his teenage years to discover that.

Dude I was a teenager in the early 70s didn't take long to figure out at all!
Talking about shifting still right?

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Dude I was a teenager in the early 70s didn't take long to figure out at all!
Talking about shifting still right?

You were a teenager in the 70's?


That explains so much...

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by Bergen23

A finger or 2 is all you really ever need.

I lol at this

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Bergen23

A finger or 2 is all you really ever need. It took @Tcoat the better part of his teenage years to discover that.

lol

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

lol

Ya, knowing Berg's age I considered a "your Mom" retort but decided against it.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ya, knowing Berg's age I considered a "your Mom" retort but decided against it.

No wrong age for a Mom joke. I hope you wouldn't pass up an opportunity with me. Mom would appreciate it.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Depending if down or up shifting the hand position may change a bit but the 3 basic ways I handle the shifter are (positions slightly exaggerated for pic clarity):


No!

Originally Posted by Caspeed

Good post Tcoat. Often the problem is the "Death Grip" people use when shifting.

When I was learning to fly (many years ago now), I was having a lot of trouble during touch-and-goes in a gusty Florida crosswind, primarily because I was terrified. My instructor let me bounce around on the runway and get back airborne, then said, "You're white-knuckling the yoke. Relax and try flying with a loose grip."

Everything immediately smoothed out. That "death grip" was overriding some of the feedback from the controls and was making it nearly impossible to respond to what the plane was telling me. I realized my neck and shoulders were also really tense, and the tension in my entire body was ending up in that grip on the yoke. Since it's next to impossible for your body to respond quickly and precisely when it's full of tension, I was always a moment behind the crosswind gusts and was being blown all over the place.

During the rest of that two hour session, I would find myself without very good control of the aircraft and would realize I was tensing up again. If I made a conscious effort to relax my neck, shoulders and grip on the yoke, I no longer had to fight the plane. It became sort of an extension of me, like I was sort of surfing those gusts myself.

Driving a high-feedback vehicle like this one is similar, including shifting. If you white-knuckle the shifter, you'll mute the feedback from the car and won't be able to respond smoothly and precisely. Same goes for the wheel. You feel much more of what the car is telling you if you relax and stay loose and smooth with your movements.