Leaking Shock Abosrber

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Cope52

Wrong. You'll just blow those out too. It's the crap Eibachs. I don't why people buy these. They are too soft. Get a stiffer higher quality spring or go back to the stockers and add Konis..

This is the first time I've heard that Eibach is crap, any links to others who aren't satisfied with the quality? Maybe some evidenced comparison?

I'm not trying to call you out, I'm just genuinely curious as to the basis for this, we loved Eibach when I was racing, they were the most consistent in our ghetto testing (use a scale and drill press, compress and measure). Of course those weren't for big cars and it was many years ago, would love to hear the latest.

[swarb]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

This is the first time I've heard that Eibach is crap, any links to others who aren't satisfied with the quality? Maybe some evidenced comparison?

I'm not trying to call you out, I'm just genuinely curious as to the basis for this, we loved Eibach when I was racing, they were the most consistent in our ghetto testing (use a scale and drill press, compress and measure). Of course those weren't for big cars and it was many years ago, would love to hear the latest.

They are crap for performance applications.
1. progressive rate.
2. too soft=too much travel=bottoming out=blown shocks.
2.5, too low for given spring rates. sportlines especially.

They are made/marketed more towards the person who wants a semi-sporty ride and mild lowering without much compromise in comfort.
They aren't bad. They just aren't "race" spec'd. Sporty style at most.

ERS are good though.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by swarb

They are crap for 2.5 reasons.
1. progressive rate.
2. too soft=too much travel=bottoming out=blown shocks.
2.5. can be too low for relatively soft spring rates.

They are made/marketed more towards the person who wants a semi-sporty ride and mild lowering without much compromise.

ERS are good though.

That sounds more like a problem about the product they chose for the application and less about the quality of what they sell. If they recalibrated or spent more time on initial testing a progressive rate spring would be a great choice for a lot of street driven cars.

It's not an excuse but that doesn't prevent me from being satisfied with the correct spring sold by eibach, and yes, all my experience has been with the ERS line (Eibach Race Spring-System).

I assume the problem is with these where they don't even tell you what you're getting:

http://performance-suspension-eibach...f-4-springs-10

Edit: Yes with initial soft and then hard spring rates I can imagine that being awkward at best on track or AutoX, but it's probably good fun for the guy who commutes to work in the same car he goes for Sunday drives in.

[Cope52]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

This is the first time I've heard that Eibach is crap, any links to others who aren't satisfied with the quality? Maybe some evidenced comparison?

I'm not trying to call you out, I'm just genuinely curious as to the basis for this, we loved Eibach when I was racing, they were the most consistent in our ghetto testing (use a scale and drill press, compress and measure). Of course those weren't for big cars and it was many years ago, would love to hear the latest.

I didn't want to go with them for my old RSX, but the springs I wanted weren't avail. so I did. They blew out my konis in 4 mos. Also, I saw "Do NOT use with Eibachs" on the Tire Rack website so I called to inquire. The guy said we've had 4000 returns! Luckily, I went with Neuspeeds for my old Prelude and they were wonderful, stiff and perfect no matter the potholes, etc--200K no probelms. Eibachs don't even feel like you're lowered unless you're really cooking, but the Neuspeeds were progressive too. It's all in the quality of the wind and the rates. Both were 1.4" lowerings.

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/S...ar=&brand=KONI