Best Springs for Handling?

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by HachiRo

Awesome feedback and info guys!
So if I were to get any springs, would I HAVE to get new sway bars, etc? Or only on certain ones it's recommended. I like the stock oversteer feel!
I'm probably looking at the Swift or Hotchkis then, right?
Any recommendations in what to get alongside either of these springs? Besides an alignment after, haha.
Eventually I plan to run Rota Grids, probably 17x9 + 30. Scared there might be rubbing.

You don't need sway bars but they can help depending on your set-up and goals.

Rather than just "getting an alignment" it's important to "get a good alignment." You'll at least want the factory camber bolts up front but depending on your goals, you might want LCAs, camber plates, or aftermarket camber bolts.

What type of tires and what size do you plan on running?

- Andy

[Agent 86]

I installed the RCE Yellows almost 2 months ago and I'm very pleased with the results. I wanted a lower more aggressive look, and ride comfort as close to stock as possible.

I really wrestled with what springs to get, because I don't like to waste money by buying twice.

I have not noticed more understeer than with the stock setup, but I don't track or AutoX and I don't push my car in that way on public roads.

[HachiRo]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

You don't need sway bars but they can help depending on your set-up and goals.

Rather than just "getting an alignment" it's important to "get a good alignment." You'll at least want the factory camber bolts up front but depending on your goals, you might want LCAs, camber plates, or aftermarket camber bolts.

What type of tires and what size do you plan on running?

- Andy

Tbh, I haven't done enough research yet based on the wheels I plan to get, but for sure I want something that handles well alongside DD. I'll probably DD more but every full moon will take it to some canyons or mountains.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by HachiRo

Tbh, I haven't done enough research yet based on the wheels I plan to get, but for sure I want something that handles well alongside DD. I'll probably DD more but every full moon will take it to some canyons or mountains.

In that case skip the swaybars for now...they are easy to add later if you feel like you need "more" and you won't need another alignment either.

- Andy

[N234]

Does anyone have experience with springs/coilovers which can raise thee ride height in the winter months?

I'm interested in something like a +/- 1" from stock. Everything seems to lower the car by x.

[2much]

Originally Posted by was385

IMO, this discussion starts and ends with RCE Yellows or Swift springs.

Love my RCE Yellows. They seem perfectly matched to the OEM shocks and the car as a whole.

[Gunman]

Another happy Hotchkis owner here.

[Strife26]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

RCE if you prefer an understeery car. Swift if you prefer something closer to a balanced setup, but with still a touch of understeer.

Is there ever a plus to understeer besides suicide?

[HachiRo]

Originally Posted by Strife26

Is there ever a plus to understeer besides suicide?

LOL
But same question, since I'm new to this all. Any reason I would want the understeer? Because I don't know about tracking and all, that word seems to have such a negative connotation. Like as if I would try to steer and it wouldn't steer enough and cause me to go too straight, lol. Or is it understeer as in I would just need to steer the steering wheel a bit more to complete a turn?
I'm pretty close between the RCE and Hotchkis now, but leaning forwards whatever will be more cost effective and works with stock parts.

[Koa]

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ayoooo lmao

[2much]

Originally Posted by HachiRo

LOL
But same question, since I'm new to this all. Any reason I would want the understeer? Because I don't know about tracking and all, that word seems to have such a negative connotation. Like as if I would try to steer and it wouldn't steer enough and cause me to go too straight, lol. Or is it understeer as in I would just need to steer the steering wheel a bit more to complete a turn?
I'm pretty close between the RCE and Hotchkis now, but leaning forwards whatever will be more cost effective and works with stock parts.

I doubt there is much difference between the two. Off the top of my head, I think the only difference is the hotchkiss keeps the rear spring rates softer? RCE are equal all the way around.

[Strife26]

Originally Posted by HachiRo

LOL
But same question, since I'm new to this all. Any reason I would want the understeer? Because I don't know about tracking and all, that word seems to have such a negative connotation. Like as if I would try to steer and it wouldn't steer enough and cause me to go too straight, lol. Or is it understeer as in I would just need to steer the steering wheel a bit more to complete a turn?
I'm pretty close between the RCE and Hotchkis now, but leaning forwards whatever will be more cost effective and works with stock parts.

I just know oversteer is the ass end sliding which is so much better than the rear pushing the front forward even though you're turning as hard as your sphincter will let you!

[killboy]

Originally Posted by HachiRo

LOL
But same question, since I'm new to this all. Any reason I would want the understeer? Because I don't know about tracking and all, that word seems to have such a negative connotation. Like as if I would try to steer and it wouldn't steer enough and cause me to go too straight, lol. Or is it understeer as in I would just need to steer the steering wheel a bit more to complete a turn?
I'm pretty close between the RCE and Hotchkis now, but leaning forwards whatever will be more cost effective and works with stock parts.

Understeer is when you are going too fast into a turn, you turn the steering wheel and the front tires "push" and it just goes straight. Turning the wheel more doesn't change anything, other than making things more violent if you do manage to slow down enough for the front to start gripping again before crashing.

Statistically understeer is typically "safer", and most stock vehicles come from the factory with a tendency to understeer because recovery from understeer requires a more natural reaction of simply slowing down while pushing/sliding.

Recovery from oversteer takes more skill and practice, you don't want to just abruptly lift off the throttle or hit the brakes when it happens for instance, but it generally means the vehicle has higher traction limits and is much more entertaining to drive.

[HachiRo]

More than likely I'll be going with RCE Starter Kit. It's a bit out of my price range, but worth the investment. I'm going to do some canyon and mountain runs, which is why the understeering feedback scares me, but I'm pretty sure it'll be safer compared to my tail swinging as I make a sharp or quick turn.
Just another question, is it severe understee or just slightly compared to stock? Would you say it'll be safe still for doing quick turns while maintaining speed?