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Old 02-28-2015, 05:32 AM   #29
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I know your trying to sell your product and make a sales pitch and put your product in the best possible light but that's not really true. For me, the torque dip was still very much present after I applied the OFT tune.

Btw OP, don't believe everything vendors tell you. Bottom line, they are trying to sell you a product. I've seen it many times from vendors here (oh, our turbo kit is super easy to install when the reality is its not that easy for a first timer).

Here is my dyno with E85 and the EL E85 tune. Big torque dip was still there.

Oft doesn't completely take out the torque dip but it certainly makes the dip smaller. Try using an UEL to completely take out the dip, you'd be astonished what happens when you go back to stock tune.
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:38 AM   #30
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Oft doesn't completely take out the torque dip but it certainly makes the dip smaller. Try using an UEL to completely take out the dip, you'd be astonished what happens when you go back to stock tune.
But Shiv claimed his tune reduces the torque dip 50% which is pure sales pitch bullshit.

The torque dip in my dyno is 20 ft-lbs. So that means the original torque dip was 40 ft-lbs? That's BS (and no I'm not going to go back to stock and spend $100 to get my car dyno-ed to see if it was).
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:41 AM   #31
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I would say if you are considering the tablet.
Find someone local to you and ask to push the buttons on it.
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:55 AM   #32
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@xuimod it sounds like you are running stock header?
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Old 02-28-2015, 08:59 AM   #33
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But Shiv claimed his tune reduces the torque dip 50% which is pure sales pitch bullshit.

The torque dip in my dyno is 20 ft-lbs. So that means the original torque dip was 40 ft-lbs? That's BS (and no I'm not going to go back to stock and spend $100 to get my car dyno-ed to see if it was).
Yeah, find me a dyno for an el/stock that got rid of the torque dip and doesn't have stupid scaling on the graph to force it flat.
Ecutek or OFT, it will still be relatively the same on NA, feel free to go ecutek on your current setup and get back to us.
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FWIW I went with oft, stage 2 uel on 91.. Miles and miles of difference from stock, butt dyno confirmed. Pulled pretty damn hard on a "Stock" FRS with exhaust and intake, got a bmw 328i (4 cyl turbo, not the I6) by about 1/2 car or so. My buddies 335i got me, but only started pulling away after 60, got him on the dig thanks to LC. Not knocking on ECUtek at all, I was considering it before the oft, but the price kind of killed it for me. It's all what ever you prefer to spend your money on though. I'm completely happy with the oft and I know plenty of folks are happy with their ECUtek tune too. In the end, it's Your call
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Here is my dyno with E85 and the EL E85 tune. Big torque dip was still there.

Looks like wasted money to me. I've seen a few people throw up their shelf tune OFT dyno's that have been less than impressive to say the least.

Not saying OFT cant due a good tune but rather shelf tunes can be a big waste of $$$$$.

Dyno tune or dont do it.
Once you go dyno tune your going to pay someone to tune it regardless of platform. Not sure how much OFT will save you over ECUTek when it comes to custom dyno tuning.
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Looks like wasted money to me. I've seen a few people throw up their shelf tune OFT dyno's that have been less than impressive to say the least.

Not saying OFT cant due a good tune but rather shelf tunes can be a big waste of $$$$$.

Dyno tune or dont do it.
Once you go dyno tune your going to pay someone to tune it regardless of platform. Not sure how much OFT will save you over ECUTek when it comes to custom dyno tuning.
Yeah, coz comparing different dynos is where it's at, plus you will get a big gain on a stock setup if dyno tuned.

May as well use the dynodynamics magic conversion factor to dynojet and call it 200hp.
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Yeah, coz comparing different dynos is where it's at, plus you will get a big gain on a stock setup if dyno tuned.

May as well use the dynodynamics magic conversion factor to dynojet and call it 200hp.
??? Can't tell if this is sarcasm or serious.


Are you trying to say that a before/after dyno is bs and the numbers are bogus??


You don't look at total HP dyno numbers but the delta of before/after to see the gain/value/result of your tune.


The graph I quoted showed the shelf OFT e85 tune to give just about zero gain over stock. IE waste of money.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:05 PM   #38
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The graph I quoted showed the shelf OFT e85 tune to give just about zero gain over stock. IE waste of money.
Their is something wrong, was your car running stock intake ? , exhaust leaks or some other issue causing problems ?

here our petrol (98 ron) is rubbish compared to yours and gains on E85 compared to petrol may be more in Oz, but guys on OFT E85 tunes see strong gains over stock.

power is in kilowatts and aussie dyno's read low compared to yours.

I run a slightly modded version of their E85 tune and their are substantial gains.

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The dyno I posted was not mine that was from xuimod
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But Shiv claimed his tune reduces the torque dip 50% which is pure sales pitch bullshit.

The torque dip in my dyno is 20 ft-lbs. So that means the original torque dip was 40 ft-lbs? That's BS (and no I'm not going to go back to stock and spend $100 to get my car dyno-ed to see if it was).
The OTS maps fill in the drop dip not just by reducing its depth but also by reducing the duration of the dip. This has been shown in numerous dyno plots posted on this forum.
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The graph I quoted showed the shelf OFT e85 tune to give just about zero gain over stock. IE waste of money.
Where is the dyno result of the stock run on that graph?
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