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Old 02-23-2015, 02:10 PM   #435
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the water in the block circulate, and there for through the OEM style oil cooler, because of the water pump whether the radiator thermostat is open or not?
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Old 02-23-2015, 02:18 PM   #436
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the water in the block circulate, and there for through the OEM style oil cooler, because of the water pump whether the radiator thermostat is open or not?
That's my understanding too. And from personal experience, the oil does warm up quicker with the Forester-style cooler (compared to stock).
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:12 PM   #437
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the water in the block circulate, and there for through the OEM style oil cooler, because of the water pump whether the radiator thermostat is open or not?


This is correct. If you use the plug on the block to get the coolant and return it somewhere in the heater circuit it will circulate regardless of the thermostat. But if you are getting and returning the coolant from/to the radiator hoses.... it will work only when the thermostat is open.
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But wouldn't it still work as a radiator bypass then? Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions.
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:58 PM   #439
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But wouldn't it still work as a radiator bypass then? Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions.
no.. the cooler is tapped into the radiator hoses. Therefore the argument is, when the t-stat is not open, the oil cooler isn't receiving any coolant.

no bypass here?
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But wouldn't it still work as a radiator bypass then? Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions.


Trust me you're not the only one.. Wouldn't what work as a radiator bypass the oem oil cooler? If using the Cusco which simply taps to the coolant hoses then it'll only allow for oil cooling when the car's thermostat has opened but then this wouldn't allow for the oil to get hotter quicker during warm up as its just getting the colder water from the radiator. So then the Cusco uses the coolant to cool the oil but not to warm it up unlike the OEM one which gets the coolant from the block so it'll warm up quicker and then keep it cool once the thermostat opens. All this crap im writing is a question im asking trying to answer it self. Feel free to correct lol. Thanks
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Trust me you're not the only one.. Wouldn't what work as a radiator bypass the oem oil cooler? If using the Cusco which simply taps to the coolant hoses then it'll only allow for oil cooling when the car's thermostat has opened but then this wouldn't allow for the oil to get hotter quicker during warm up as its just getting the colder water from the radiator. So then the Cusco uses the coolant to cool the oil but not to warm it up unlike the OEM one which gets the coolant from the block so it'll warm up quicker and then keep it cool once the thermostat opens. All this crap im writing is a question im asking trying to answer it self. Feel free to correct lol. Thanks
It may not be as good as OEM set up for warming up oil faster, but my personal experience shows that it still warms up oil faster than stock. My home to work is about 4 miles drive. When I had no cooler, the oil temp was about 155-160° when I arrive work, but after I installed by replicating Cusco type, oil temp always is about 175° when I arrive at work.
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That's works for me, honestly down here in Miami I don't have any issues warming up the oil, cooling it is the deal.
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Doesn't matter where you live, its not 200 degrees anywhere on the planet so the ambient temp of your oil is too cold when the motor first starts...

Faster warming ALWAYS helps.
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Doesn't matter where you live, its not 200 degrees anywhere on the planet so the ambient temp of your oil is too cold when the motor first starts...

Faster warming ALWAYS helps.


It will always be too cold whether you have the oil cooler/regulator or not smart guy, the fact that it warms it up quicker doesn't take away that oil is always too cold for startup. What I was trying to say before you stated the obvious in a rude way is that Im not as concerned with oil start up temps as people living up north.
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It will always be too cold whether you have the oil cooler/regulator or not smart guy, the fact that it warms it up quicker doesn't take away that oil is always too cold for startup. What I was trying to say before you stated the obvious in a rude way is that Im not as concerned with oil start up temps as people living up north.
I didn't see it as rude at all. It was simply a direct statement that it is always better to bring the oil/engine up to normal operating temp as quickly as possible to minimize wear.

And absolutely correct, btw.

Relax.
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I didn't see it as rude at all. It was simply a direct statement that it is always better to bring the oil/engine up to normal operating temp as quickly as possible to minimize wear.

And absolutely correct, btw.

Relax.
Are you a lawyer, were you hired..? I was confused there for a second then realized you weren't involved.

And I understand the fact that oil temps need to climb as fast as possible, still doesn't call for "no where on this planet its 200 degrees" which is far more obvious than what temp oil needs to be when starting up and btw mind your own damn business before you go telling others to relax.


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It was simply a direct statement that it is always better to bring the oil/engine up to normal operating temp as quickly as possible to minimize wear.
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Oh and in any case Mr. District attorney, saying that it isn't 200 degrees anywhere on this planet to reference is never warm enough for startup oil temps is FAR from being a direct statement.
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lol started on post 443. Just don't get it why some people have to make a thing out of nothing. Aside from all that, im here for the info so I'll refrain from making comments not related to the OP.
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