Hi, im new here and almost become a 86 member!

[Defuser]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I think a lot of the "not good as a daily" crowd are missing the point that many of us that daily it do not use it as the only family car. If they are thinking daily as in it is the only vehicle you own to take the kids to soccer, grab piles of groceries, and hauling stuff around then ya they are probably correct.
For me it is absolutely the perfect DD for my long commutes and haul my laptop around. My wife's RVR serves all our other needs.

Agreed.

In some places, anything less than a full size truck would be viewed as less-than-practical. Much of Canada for instance.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ZHoward

1.is the OEM suspension good? im thinking change springs only, not the whole suspension system.
2.the first mod i want is brake, i saw AP racing have it and not too expensive, but how about rear brake, only pads are ok? or also change the brake system.
3.i also want to change wheels and tires, the OEM tires are beautiful but... 215/17, motorcycle width..17*9 and 255/40/17 is fine on track?
4. what turbo or SC do u guys use, i think when i change car from GTR to BRZ, i can feel this is like SUV...and 300-450 whp i think is fine, i dont want too much whp and get too much issues, cause i will daily drive it.

1. It's not bad, but it's not "good" when you're comparing it to a proper high performance setup. You can't beat not spending extra though.
2. Stock rear rotors are fine, unless you're pretty quick and have forced induction and are running sticky tires.
3. Yup, but the fastest tire setup, even on forced induction cars, has been proven to be a narrower tire.
4. You will not reliably make 300-450whp for track use, without spending GTR level money.

Originally Posted by ZHoward

thanks a lot, cause i drive GTR to track, for daily drive, brake is awesome, but when i play on track, may only 15 laps in Buttonwillow, brake is not good at all( OEM brake fluid), so i think BRZ OEM rotor will become really hot

What kind of lap times do you run at BRP in your GTR?

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Probably. It's going to depend on how hard you are pushing the car at the track, ambient temps, etc., but I'd look at the following build as an example of a well-sorted, heavily-tracked turbo BRZ:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28008

Especially this post:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=215

Even with a vented hood, intercooler, ducted side-mounted oil cooler, and upgraded radiator/fans, he was still seeing coolant temps in the 225-235 F range. It's mostly a function of the intercooler blocking airflow to the radiator and the heat put out by the turbo. Oil temps looked good though.

It's not impossible to track a turbo BRZ/FR-S, just takes time and money to get it right. If you're serious about it, I'd talk to either Counterspace Garage or Element Tuning. Both have significant track and setup experience with turbo FR-S/BRZ's.
@CSG Mike @Element Tuning

Ironically, ImperiousRex also sold his GTR for the BRZ.

[PhantomX]

Originally Posted by Defuser

Agreed.

In some places, anything less than a full size truck would be viewed as less-than-practical. Much of Canada for instance.

Or Alaska. 4WD/AWD is king. People doubt the ability of a FWD, and more so of a RWD. They think FWD is okay-ish until snow builds up enough to get it stuck and RWD just won't move. They even think I fabricated a crazy story when I tell them my experiences with RWD in the snow.

[chaoskaze]

I don't know but coming from gtr to 86 is a big change. The fact He lives in west la, also this will be his 1st manual car not to mention about the traffic & road condition there. I just think he will be more happy.... With an older Sti or Evo.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Defuser

Agreed.

In some places, anything less than a full size truck would be viewed as less-than-practical. Much of Canada for instance.

Actually for me a truck would be impractical as a DD. I have friends that drive a Ram 1500 4WD as a daily driver. They pay about 3 times what I do for gas, have to cram everything in the back seat or fold up the cover on the back, have a bitch of a time parking it, each tire costs about as much as a full set for my car and they have never, ever used it to haul a thing!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

I don't know but coming from gtr to 86 is a big change. The fact He lives in west la, also this will be his 1st manual car not to mention about the traffic & road condition there. I just think he will be more happy.... With an older Sti or Evo.

I agree.
From what he said that would also be a much better fit for his budget! If he can't afford what he has then trying to get a 300hp fully modded FRS does not really work with his price point either.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

I don't know but coming from gtr to 86 is a big change. The fact He lives in west la, also this will be his 1st manual car not to mention about the traffic & road condition there. I just think he will be more happy.... With an older Sti or Evo.

None of his posts are really making any sense at all. He says he's a student who can't afford his six year old GT-R because it has damage and expensive issues that need to be corrected and he owes other people money, so he's planning to sell it to pay for an 86 and a whole lot of mods that, all together, are going to cost more than he'll get for the GT-R. After all that, it sounds like he'll still have the same financial issues, but he'll be driving a car that will not perform to the ideal he has created in his head. All this before even having driven the car to know if it's even the right base to build from.

I love my own BRZ, but I'll say it again: OP would be making a mistake to buy one. This car will be an enduring source of frustration, and in the end he'll lose even more money when he tries to sell it next year and discovers that he can't get his money back out of his mods.

Here's what I predict will actually happen: OP will put his GT-R up for sale for way too much money and will have a devil of a time selling it. Then financial crisis will force him to take much less than he's expecting. After he pays off the people whom he owes money, he'll have barely enough to buy a stock FR-S. Then he'll drive it around generally dissatisfied, wishing he had more power, until he trades it for something else.

[ZHoward]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

1. It's not bad, but it's not "good" when you're comparing it to a proper high performance setup. You can't beat not spending extra though.

2. Stock rear rotors are fine, unless you're pretty quick and have forced induction and are running sticky tires.

3. Yup, but the fastest tire setup, even on forced induction cars, has been proven to be a narrower tire.

4. You will not reliably make 300-450whp for track use, without spending GTR level money.







What kind of lap times do you run at BRP in your GTR?







Ironically, ImperiousRex also sold his GTR for the BRZ.

What is BRP mean? And I drive in buttonwillow is not fast, only 2:14


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

None of his posts are really making any sense at all. He says he's a student who can't afford his six year old GT-R because it has damage and expensive issues that need to be corrected and he owes other people money, so he's planning to sell it to pay for an 86 and a whole lot of mods that, all together, are going to cost more than he'll get for the GT-R. After all that, it sounds like he'll still have the same financial issues, but he'll be driving a car that will not perform to the ideal he has created in his head. All this before even having driven the car to know if it's even the right base to build from.

I love my own BRZ, but I'll say it again: OP would be making a mistake to buy one. This car will be an enduring source of frustration, and in the end he'll lose even more money when he tries to sell it next year and discovers that he can't get his money back out of his mods.

Here's what I predict will actually happen: OP will put his GT-R up for sale for way too much money and will have a devil of a time selling it. Then financial crisis will force him to take much less than he's expecting. After he pays off the people whom he owes money, he'll have barely enough to buy a stock FR-S. Then he'll drive it around generally dissatisfied, wishing he had more power, until he trades it for something else.

Yep!
And although I usually do not throw the word around lightly the whole thing could be a big troll post to start with! Don't think so but still possible.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

None of his posts are really making any sense at all. He says he's a student who can't afford his six year old GT-R because it has damage and expensive issues that need to be corrected and he owes other people money, so he's planning to sell it to pay for an 86 and a whole lot of mods that, all together, are going to cost more than he'll get for the GT-R. After all that, it sounds like he'll still have the same financial issues, but he'll be driving a car that will not perform to the ideal he has created in his head. All this before even having driven the car to know if it's even the right base to build from.

I love my own BRZ, but I'll say it again: OP would be making a mistake to buy one. This car will be an enduring source of frustration, and in the end he'll lose even more money when he tries to sell it next year and discovers that he can't get his money back out of his mods.

Here's what I predict will actually happen: OP will put his GT-R up for sale for way too much money and will have a devil of a time selling it. Then financial crisis will force him to take much less than he's expecting. After he pays off the people whom he owes money, he'll have barely enough to buy a stock FR-S. Then he'll drive it around generally dissatisfied, wishing he had more power, until he trades it for something else.

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[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ZHoward

What is BRP mean? And I drive in buttonwillow is not fast, only 2:14


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BRP is Buttonwillow Raceway Park.

If you're doing a 2:14 at BRP in a GT-R, you really should leave the engine alone on the BRZ.

I've lapped 2:06 on the old pavement in a 100% stock BRZ, minus brake pads and fluid.

[ZHoward]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

None of his posts are really making any sense at all. He says he's a student who can't afford his six year old GT-R because it has damage and expensive issues that need to be corrected and he owes other people money, so he's planning to sell it to pay for an 86 and a whole lot of mods that, all together, are going to cost more than he'll get for the GT-R. After all that, it sounds like he'll still have the same financial issues, but he'll be driving a car that will not perform to the ideal he has created in his head. All this before even having driven the car to know if it's even the right base to build from.



I love my own BRZ, but I'll say it again: OP would be making a mistake to buy one. This car will be an enduring source of frustration, and in the end he'll lose even more money when he tries to sell it next year and discovers that he can't get his money back out of his mods.



Here's what I predict will actually happen: OP will put his GT-R up for sale for way too much money and will have a devil of a time selling it. Then financial crisis will force him to take much less than he's expecting. After he pays off the people whom he owes money, he'll have barely enough to buy a stock FR-S. Then he'll drive it around generally dissatisfied, wishing he had more power, until he trades it for something else.

Ops, I mean, I will buy a brz first and another money give back my friends, maybe half year I can give all back to him, after that, I will mod it step by step, maybe take long time(3year?) not buy everything together at same time


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[CAMBAM_6]

Personal Opinion:

Being that your a student who is already in a financial bind with a very expensive car to maintain is already bad decisions, wanting to buy a FRS and then modding it to where it can potentially become another expensive car to maintain is adding to your financial mistakes lol. If you MUST have a sports car like others have said get a WRX with a turbo under warranty.

I vote Honda Civic until you graduate and can afford to Not live off your parents

/respectfully

[ZHoward]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

BRP is Buttonwillow Raceway Park.



If you're doing a 2:14 at BRP in a GT-R, you really should leave the engine alone on the BRZ.



I've lapped 2:06 on the old pavement in a 100% stock BRZ, minus brake pads and fluid.

I know now I driving bad , but I think for this weight car, PSS tire can hold it, this used car is not come with stock tires, and I still don't know how to drive AWD..


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