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Old 02-19-2015, 02:16 AM   #1
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Red face Hi, im new here and almost become a 86 member!

Hi, guys, right now i m selling my 2009 GTR cause i need money, and i plan to get a 2013 brz limited which is my first manual car, hopefully my Chinese drivers license is work for me to daily drive(only can drive manual car to pass test in my city)

i have a few question about the brz right now, so if u mod ur brz/frs already, plz help me:

1.is the OEM suspension good? im thinking change springs only, not the whole suspension system.
2.the first mod i want is brake, i saw AP racing have it and not too expensive, but how about rear brake, only pads are ok? or also change the brake system.
3.i also want to change wheels and tires, the OEM tires are beautiful but... 215/17, motorcycle width..17*9 and 255/40/17 is fine on track?
4. what turbo or SC do u guys use, i think when i change car from GTR to BRZ, i can feel this is like SUV...and 300-450 whp i think is fine, i dont want too much whp and get too much issues, cause i will daily drive it.



Thanks guys, there is a lot of questions, haha, plz help me and... yep, today is Chinese New Year, Happy Chinese New Year!!



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At first, thanks to everybody who help me and give me suggestion, and i want to explain about why i want to sell my GTR:

i finance this car from my friend, and i have to pay 1500+ to my friends, my friends want the tax fee right now which is 2000, and i cant afford it, and for this 5 years used car, brake pad almost gone, replace hawk dtc 60 or 70 almost $500, and i have to change engile oil every 3000 miles, $300, also transmission oil, rotor, etc.that is a lot of money for just maintains....
for a international student, my parents give me some money, after i pay to my friends every month and apt fees, i only have $200 in my pocket, i just want my life become better, not burger everyday...
I agree with u guys, GTR is a track monster, but for me only drive car for 1 and half year and less than 10 track experiences, really cant hold this monster on track.
before GTR i drive porsche cayman no S, that car is so much balance and only 265 HP, thats why i think 300WHP is really fine for me, drag race is boring, and mod mid-engine car is so difficult and expensive...the reason sell this is cause this car have accidents but no carfax, and my friend (WAS) who sell me this car dont tell me that, i m too young and idiot to trust him.


Post this because if u want say "keep GTR" like this, i just want to say i cant ....I love GTR but i have no choice.

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Old 02-19-2015, 02:30 AM   #2
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You will hate this car. You should not buy it.
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You will hate this car. You should not buy it.
well, can u tell me why? I didnt buy it yet...cause my budget is not too much
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1. I feel OEM suspension is good but I only daily drive my car so far, maybe anybody with some track experience would be willing to chime in and help out on that. For springs, maybe RaceComp Engineering Yellows.

2. Try feeling out how the stock brakes are before changing them out, there is a very good brake guide in the suspension section of the forum. Most say that only pads would be good.

3. A lot of people on the forums do run 17x9 wheels they may be able to help you out with this, I am currently on the stock wheels and tires.

4. Before deciding on how much power you need or how the car may feel, especially coming from a GTR, try test driving the car and determine if you feel the car will work for you.
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Just buy this dude's and be done with it
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82572

You do it yourself and you are going to spend over $40k on the car you outlined. Aftermarket forced induction is not a game for those with budgets.

Edit: I agree with everything stated in the post above.
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Old 02-19-2015, 04:44 AM   #6
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Just buy this dude's and be done with it
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82572

You do it yourself and you are going to spend over $40k on the car you outlined. Aftermarket forced induction is not a game for those with budgets.

Edit: I agree with everything stated in the post above.
over 40k? wow, i dont want the best suspension or tire or turbo, just improve performance is fine, wheels+tires+suspension+brake=4000 plus 4000-6000 turbo, i think 15000 is fine, i have friend own a auto shop and labor fee is not too much
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1. I feel OEM suspension is good but I only daily drive my car so far, maybe anybody with some track experience would be willing to chime in and help out on that. For springs, maybe RaceComp Engineering Yellows.

2. Try feeling out how the stock brakes are before changing them out, there is a very good brake guide in the suspension section of the forum. Most say that only pads would be good.

3. A lot of people on the forums do run 17x9 wheels they may be able to help you out with this, I am currently on the stock wheels and tires.

4. Before deciding on how much power you need or how the car may feel, especially coming from a GTR, try test driving the car and determine if you feel the car will work for you.

thanks a lot, cause i drive GTR to track, for daily drive, brake is awesome, but when i play on track, may only 15 laps in Buttonwillow, brake is not good at all( OEM brake fluid), so i think BRZ OEM rotor will become really hot
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over 40k? wow, i dont want the best suspension or tire or turbo, just improve performance is fine, wheels+tires+suspension+brake=4000 plus 4000-6000 turbo, i think 15000 is fine, i have friend own a auto shop and labor fee is not too much
I was including cost of the car in the equation, so ~$26K plus ~15K will put you over $40K all in. There's also the money you will want to have saved away just in case you blow up the engine. If you want the best suspension/wheel and tire setup, you can add ANOTHER $10K on to that.
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I was including cost of the car in the equation, so ~$26K plus ~15K will put you over $40K all in. There's also the money you will want to have saved away just in case you blow up the engine. If you want the best suspension/wheel and tire setup, you can add ANOTHER $10K on to that.

Plus car! Hah, I got it, I find a car is around 21000-22000, , I will not buy a new car, SoCal tax is too high


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Your going to spend more money on the frs to get it to be as fast as your gtr from what you're getting back from selling a used gt-r. I've seen them at dealerships used for 65 grand. The amount of mods you have to put into an frs to make it's 2.0 liter four cylinder match the gtr's v6 3.8 twin turbo is not going to make it a happy daily driver. Don't get me wrong, the nissan gtr is an amazing car, and Godzilla is the perfect nick name for it, but when you play with a fr-s, most of us will be happy enough with a good suspension set up, good brakes, and some spare wheels. I've met a lot of car enthusiasts that just dumps money into these cars to turbo them or supercharge them, and they don't even track it. They just end up selling it because they miscalculated how much they needed for a turbo car vs life expenses lol.
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Since you're considering used, there's a guy on here that's selling a WRB BRZ with JDL turbo and only 5k miles for $35k... now that's the best bang for your buck.

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Your going to spend more money on the frs to get it to be as fast as your gtr from what you're getting back from selling a used gt-r. I've seen them at dealerships used for 65 grand. The amount of mods you have to put into an frs to make it's 2.0 liter four cylinder match the gtr's v6 3.8 twin turbo is not going to make it a happy daily driver. Don't get me wrong, the nissan gtr is an amazing car, and Godzilla is the perfect nick name for it, but when you play with a fr-s, most of us will be happy enough with a good suspension set up, good brakes, and some spare wheels. I've met a lot of car enthusiasts that just dumps money into these cars to turbo them or supercharge them, and they don't even track it. They just end up selling it because they miscalculated how much they needed for a turbo car vs life expenses lol.

I will not catch the GTR, 300 whp for me is really enough, I really can't hold GTR on track, some reason make me must sell it... I also don't want to sell it, buy no choice..


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