Local tuning shops who will tune with OpenFlash Tablet?

[Silver Ignition]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

That's pretty much what it boils down to. We can tune with anything but you're paying 160-200/hour for dyno time. After 10 OFT flashes you burned an hour. I can do that in 15 minutes with EcuTek. About half way into the tuning session you just paid for that EcuTek license and get a ton more features too. And that's not counting the time saved when adjusting maps. With the EcuTek interface it takes about 20 seconds for me to make relative adjustments with fuel/timing/cam/di timing and whatever else. Can't move that quickly with a clunky interface.

Thanks for the input.
And there's no way to do all your fine tuning with the ecutek and then just save the final copy of the tune onto the OFT? That sounds too easy...

[NyC Zn6]

Originally Posted by Silver Ignition

Thanks for the input.
And there's no way to do all your fine tuning with the ecutek and then just save the final copy of the tune onto the OFT? That sounds too easy...

Hey did you get your car fine tuned on the OFT yet?

[vgi]

Originally Posted by Silver Ignition

And there's no way to do all your fine tuning with the ecutek and then just save the final copy of the tune onto the OFT? That sounds too easy...

no. ecutek tunes are encrypted.

also, with oft it's not the flashing time itself that would take too long, eg 1 extra minute doesn't make much difference. it's familiarity with the software - quickly navigate to tables, quickly make required changes, select and log specific parameters, review log in familiar colors and graphs. think of it as if you have been using windows and ms office all your life and now you suddenly need quickly create and print a full blown presentation using linux and open office.

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by vgi

no. ecutek tunes are encrypted.

also, with oft it's not the flashing time itself that would take too long, eg 1 extra minute doesn't make much difference. it's familiarity with the software - quickly navigate to tables, quickly make required changes, select and log specific parameters, review log in familiar colors and graphs. think of it as if you have been using windows and ms office all your life and now you suddenly need quickly create and print a full blown presentation using linux and open office.

Mike Mann can probably speak to this better than I can, but I believe the ECUTEK tunes can be encrypted or left unlocked depending on the tuner's wishes.

-mike

[Silver Ignition]

Originally Posted by NyC Zn6

Hey did you get your car fine tuned on the OFT yet?

Not yet...I finally heard from Shiv about the e-tune...just waiting to pick up a header and waiting for summer e85 to come back...

[nelsmar]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

That's pretty much what it boils down to. We can tune with anything but you're paying 160-200/hour for dyno time. After 10 OFT flashes you burned an hour. I can do that in 15 minutes with EcuTek. About half way into the tuning session you just paid for that EcuTek license and get a ton more features too. And that's not counting the time saved when adjusting maps. With the EcuTek interface it takes about 20 seconds for me to make relative adjustments with fuel/timing/cam/di timing and whatever else. Can't move that quickly with a clunky interface.

Damn you have gotten it down to 6 minutes per flash?! last time I timed it I was at 12 minutes... I guess if you put multiple files on the OFT it saves a couple of minutes but the flash time is rough. I actually started flashing someones ECU with OFT last night, went to my car flashed it with ecutek on parallels which is horribly slow, then topped off my oil, coolant, and even warmed my car up... and my buddies OFT had finally finished lol... That and the fact I can't graph a MAF curve in rom raider or view total timing with IAM 1.0 to smooth my tables drives me absolutely crazy... The Rom Raider interface just sucks...

In all things serious yes you can do some minor tweaks in OFT but most tuners prefer to start from scratch... They don't like to use someone elses tune and stamp their name on it. Ive done tweaks to OFT maps for locals in exchange for a beer here and there and its usually just a 1-2 flash ordeal. So when you add the horrible interface, slow flash time, expensive dyno time... The time / cost just adds up in the end when it comes to a custom tune.

[Liquid6]

Originally Posted by Silver Ignition

Not yet...I finally heard from Shiv about the e-tune...just waiting to pick up a header and waiting for summer e85 to come back...

There's a station by us that's still pumping E81 you're not gonna find any better on Long Island


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[Silver Ignition]

Originally Posted by Liquid6

There's a station by us that's still pumping E81 you're not gonna find any better on Long Island


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Yeah I know there's still some good e85 out there...but between winter fuel and the terrible cold starts, I just switch back to 93 as a precaution. I sync my e85 use with the AutoX schedule, other than that I don't really need it...

[vgi]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

Mike Mann can probably speak to this better than I can, but I believe the ECUTEK tunes can be encrypted or left unlocked depending on the tuner's wishes.

-mike

I'm not talking about locked or unlocked tunes, the map file itself is encrypted and can be loaded by ecutek only. Another words, there is no way to save a tune in a raw bin.

[NyC Zn6]

Originally Posted by Silver Ignition

Yeah I know there's still some good e85 out there...but between winter fuel and the terrible cold starts, I just switch back to 93 as a precaution. I sync my e85 use with the AutoX schedule, other than that I don't really need it...

Yea same here just a winter precaution to run 93 then in spring back to e85...i might choose the etune route just looking for a little feedback.

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by vgi

I'm not talking about locked or unlocked tunes, the map file itself is encrypted and can be loaded by ecutek only. Another words, there is no way to save a tune in a raw bin.

Gotcha, in that case I would just purchase the EcuTek lisc, they aren't that expensive in the grand scheme of things.

-miks