Hi, im new here and almost become a 86 member!

[ZHoward]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

Since you're considering used, there's a guy on here that's selling a WRB BRZ with JDL turbo and only 5k miles for $35k... now that's the best bang for your buck.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81584

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I saw this and interior is awesome! But I really don't know how to ship a car from NY to SoCal, and how can I pay to him without risk..


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[chaoskaze]

Keep gtr, brz is a track toy while Godzilla is track weapon...

But ya both are not that good for daily, u will likely regret it. Another thing is that you should get an international drivers license, I believe urs is only good for a month or few.

Then again isn't 09 the first gen gtr? Insert joke about launch control void warranty.

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by ZHoward

I saw this and interior is awesome! But I really don't know how to ship a car from NY to SoCal, and how can I pay to him without risk..


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Go on a road trip! Or pay for a plane ticket and then go on a road trip!

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by ZHoward

well, can u tell me why? I didnt buy it yet...cause my budget is not too much

Because you are already planning to mod the car without having driven it. You already think you're not satisfied with the car stock, so you're already chasing some vague ideal in your head that doesn't actually exist. You will spend a load of money on the car and never quite achieve any level of satisfaction with it.

If you buy this car, you will either end up selling it next year at a huge loss (after the cost of the car + mods), or you will be stuck with it until the engine grenades. Either way you will never be happy with it, because this is not really the car you're looking for.

Why can't you keep the GT-R? By the time you complete all these mods, you will have spent all the money you get from selling the GT-R, so I can't see a serious financial motive there.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by ZHoward

Hi, guys, right now i m selling my 2009 GTR cause i need money, and i plan to get a 2013 brz limited which is my first manual car, hopefully my Chinese drivers license is work for me to daily drive(only can drive manual car to pass test in my city)

i have a few question about the brz right now, so if u mod ur brz/frs already, plz help me:

1.is the OEM suspension good? im thinking change springs only, not the whole suspension system.
2.the first mod i want is brake, i saw AP racing have it and not too expensive, but how about rear brake, only pads are ok? or also change the brake system.
3.i also want to change wheels and tires, the OEM tires are beautiful but... 215/17, motorcycle width..17*9 and 255/40/17 is fine on track?
4. what turbo or SC do u guys use, i think when i change car from GTR to BRZ, i can feel this is like SUV...and 300-450 whp i think is fine, i dont want too much whp and get too much issues, cause i will daily drive it.



Thanks guys, there is a lot of questions, haha, plz help me and... yep, today is Chinese New Year, Happy Chinese New Year!!

1) OEM suspension is very good.

2) Changing just the pads on the rear brakes should be fine if you're on a budget. This would be similar to the Stoptech "small" BBK front brake setup. Most of the braking is done by the front anyway. You can read more here.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=59726&page=3

3) 17x9 wheels with 255 width tires should be fine depending on tire choice. Some tires run wide. You will need to go with an offset of +40 or +35 on the wheels to clear the strut or go with aftermarket coilovers.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1117030

4) If you want 300-450 whp reliably on the track, you'll probably need to go with a turbo setup. You should start reading extensively on cooling mods (vented hood, oil cooler, etc.), as you will run into heat issues.

If you have budget restrictions, I'd probably go with a JRSC (supercharger) with supporting mods/upgrades and call it a day. You'll be under the 300 whp mark, but at least you'll be able to track it hard without too many issues.


Lastly as others have said, make sure you test drive the car and it's what you want. At the end of the day, you'll have dumped a lot of money making it track-reliable with 300+ whp, and it's not for everyone.

[Koa]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

Keep gtr, brz is a track toy while Godzilla is track weapon...

But ya both are not that good for daily, u will likely regret it. Another thing is that you should get an international drivers license, I believe urs is only good for a month or few.

Then again isn't 09 the first gen gtr? Insert joke about launch control void warranty.

Who says the fr-s isn't a good daily?

I clock 700-800 miles a week on mine. love it.

Full exhaust and bilstein B8s on sportlines, racerx lcas. Full bushings from whiteline. TRD quickshifter.. see no problems daily

[UtahSleeper]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

But ya both are not that good for daily, u will likely regret it.

Why is the BRZ/FR-S not good as a daily? I personally love it.

Since you are making this move because of money, maybe consider something even cheaper to just DD and save money for what you want after test driving anything you like. Just a suggestion.

And as stated, if you buy the BRZ, drive it for a bit before you start upgrading. People really should get a feel for a car before throwing money at it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Koa

Who says the fr-s isn't a good daily?

I clock 700-800 miles a week on mine. love it.

Full exhaust and bilstein B8s on sportlines, racerx lcas. Full bushings from whiteline. TRD quickshifter.. see no problems daily

I think a lot of the "not good as a daily" crowd are missing the point that many of us that daily it do not use it as the only family car. If they are thinking daily as in it is the only vehicle you own to take the kids to soccer, grab piles of groceries, and hauling stuff around then ya they are probably correct.
For me it is absolutely the perfect DD for my long commutes and haul my laptop around. My wife's RVR serves all our other needs.

[ZHoward]

At first, thanks to everybody who help me and give me suggestion, and i want to explain about why i want to sell my GTR:

i finance this car from my GTR, and i have to pay 1500+ to my friends, my friends want the tax fee right now which is 2000, and i cant afford it, and for this 5 years used car, brake pad almost gone, replace hawk dtc 60 or 70 almost $500, and i have to change engile oil every 3000 miles, $300, also transmission oil, rotor, etc.that is a lot of money for just maintains....
for a international student, my parents give me some money, after i pay to my friends every month and apt fees, i only have $200 in my pocket, i just want my life become better, not burger everyday...
I agree with u guys, GTR is a track monster, but for me only drive car for 1 and half year and less than 10 track experiences, really cant hold this monster on track.
before GTR i drive porsche cayman no S, that car is so much balance and only 265 HP, thats why i think 300WHP is really fine for me, drag race is boring, and mod mid-engine car is so difficult and expensive...the reason sell this is cause this car have accidents but no carfax, and my friend (WAS) who sell me this car dont tell me that, i m too young and idiot to trust him.


Post this because if u want say "keep GTR" like this, i just want to say i cant ....I love GTR but i have no choice.

[Koa]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I think a lot of the "not good as a daily" crowd are missing the point that many of us that daily it do not use it as the only family car. If they are thinking daily as in it is the only vehicle you own to take the kids to soccer, grab piles of groceries, and hauling stuff around then ya they are probably correct.
For me it is absolutely the perfect DD for my long commutes and haul my laptop around. My wife's RVR serves all our other needs.

can definitely see that one T.

edited - I love my FRS as a ME/ME+COLLEAGUE ONLY daily/commuter

[ZHoward]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

Keep gtr, brz is a track toy while Godzilla is track weapon...

But ya both are not that good for daily, u will likely regret it. Another thing is that you should get an international drivers license, I believe urs is only good for a month or few.

Then again isn't 09 the first gen gtr? Insert joke about launch control void warranty.

i got extended warranty which is include transmission and im already change a new transmission 1 month ago

[ZHoward]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

1) OEM suspension is very good.

2) Changing just the pads on the rear brakes should be fine if you're on a budget. This would be similar to the Stoptech "small" BBK front brake setup. Most of the braking is done by the front anyway. You can read more here.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=59726&page=3

3) 17x9 wheels with 255 width tires should be fine depending on tire choice. Some tires run wide. You will need to go with an offset of +40 or +35 on the wheels to clear the strut or go with aftermarket coilovers.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1117030

4) If you want 300-450 whp reliably on the track, you'll probably need to go with a turbo setup. You should start reading extensively on cooling mods (vented hood, oil cooler, etc.), as you will run into heat issues.

If you have budget restrictions, I'd probably go with a JRSC (supercharger) with supporting mods/upgrades and call it a day. You'll be under the 300 whp mark, but at least you'll be able to track it hard without too many issues.


Lastly as others have said, make sure you test drive the car and it's what you want. At the end of the day, you'll have dumped a lot of money making it track-reliable with 300+ whp, and it's not for everyone.

Thanks a lot, i saw a lot of turbo is a combo, like full blown, i saw intercooler, fans, a lot of things here, even i buy this combo i still can get overheat issues?

[chaoskaze]

it's the City, LA road codition is like the worst roakkd u can find

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by ZHoward

Thanks a lot, i saw a lot of turbo is a combo, like full blown, i saw intercooler, fans, a lot of things here, even i buy this combo i still can get overheat issues?

Probably. It's going to depend on how hard you are pushing the car at the track, ambient temps, etc., but I'd look at the following build as an example of a well-sorted, heavily-tracked turbo BRZ:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28008

Especially this post:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=215

Even with a vented hood, intercooler, ducted side-mounted oil cooler, and upgraded radiator/fans, he was still seeing coolant temps in the 225-235 F range. It's mostly a function of the intercooler blocking airflow to the radiator and the heat put out by the turbo. Oil temps looked good though.

It's not impossible to track a turbo BRZ/FR-S, just takes time and money to get it right. If you're serious about it, I'd talk to either Counterspace Garage or Element Tuning. Both have significant track and setup experience with turbo FR-S/BRZ's.
@CSG Mike @Element Tuning