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Old 09-15-2010, 02:36 PM   #71
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Exactly. No one is asking for standard awd. Obviously if you want a turbo you pay more. AWD? Higher cost. AWD + Turbo, get out that checkbook. It's obvious that added components mean increased cost. My only point is that Subaru type awd is completely possible without moving the engine forward in the chassis.

I woul have no bad blood against Toyota/Subaru if they decide to offer a GT4/STi version for $30+K as long as I still get my ~2600lb/200+ hp NA RWD and 260hp+ turbo rwd. It's not as if Toyota has a whole lineup of sports cars and are wondering where they can position this.

As long as the original idea is not f'ked with, I say the more variants the merrier, sell as much as possible, keep the FT-86 alive dammit.

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Man, when Matador say it, it's more convincing. Maybe I need to take debate class next semester...
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Exactly. No one is asking for standard awd. Obviously if you want a turbo you pay more. AWD? Higher cost. AWD + Turbo, get out that checkbook. It's obvious that added components mean increased cost. My only point is that Subaru type awd is completely possible without moving the engine forward in the chassis.

I woul have no bad blood against Toyota/Subaru if they decide to offer a GT4/STi version for $30+K as long as I still get my ~2600lb/200+ hp NA RWD and 260hp+ turbo rwd. It's not as if Toyota has a whole lineup of sports cars and are wondering where they can position this.

As long as the original idea is not f'ked with, I say the more variants the merrier, sell as much as possible, keep the FT-86 alive dammit.

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ok i see your point of view now, and yeah thats right, as long as the car is kept alive and they dont fuck with the original idea, there will be redesigns and new models and the car will be around for a while
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<--- never took a debate class in his life, but was once on the debate team for an English class some time back in high school.

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I woul have no bad blood against Toyota/Subaru if they decide to offer a GT4/STi version for $30+K as long as I still get my ~2600lb/200+ hp NA RWD and 260hp+ turbo rwd. It's not as if Toyota has a whole lineup of sports cars and are wondering where they can position this.



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<--- never took a debate class in his life, but was once on the debate team for an English class some time back in high school.

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but you put your point across quickly and effectively.. something i simply cannot do
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lol.
It's like you were born to debate, some might say master debater.... Had to say it
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:48 AM   #77
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I prefer to think of myself as a cunning linguist.
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Yeah, but if you were the other you could wear a cool hat.... Think about it
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Exactly. No one is asking for standard awd. Obviously if you want a turbo you pay more. AWD? Higher cost. AWD + Turbo, get out that checkbook. It's obvious that added components mean increased cost. My only point is that Subaru type awd is completely possible without moving the engine forward in the chassis.

I woul have no bad blood against Toyota/Subaru if they decide to offer a GT4/STi version for $30+K as long as I still get my ~2600lb/200+ hp NA RWD and 260hp+ turbo rwd. It's not as if Toyota has a whole lineup of sports cars and are wondering where they can position this.

As long as the original idea is not f'ked with, I say the more variants the merrier, sell as much as possible, keep the FT-86 alive dammit.

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Don't let that debate praise go to your head just yet...

(Cunning linguist, awesome)

I still gotta disagree on this.

AWD system, sure. Subaru type, no. That race Legacy is using a 'Subaru type' AWD system in the same way that a NASCAR Camry is using a 'Toyota V8'. Technically true, but zero relation to production tech.

As far as I know, Subaru only currently uses the axles-sticking-out-of-the-front-of-the-transmission type AWD system.

Doubt they will engineer a totally different AWD system for this car.

Option is a Toyota AWD system, maybe. I don't know how the IS does it, but I would guess more conventionally (Driveshaft to front, separate front diff...)? This would likely be an asymetric as opposed to Subaru's symetric (how the hell do you spell symetry properly?) AWD.
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^ It's "subaru type" because it's symmetrical.
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^ A 2.5L Turbo would be an absolute moster in a car of this weight. My guess is still for the 2.0L N/A, but I don't doubt that there may be a turbo version (Whether it's solely the G's model, I'm not sure).

Hell, even a 2.0L Turbo would be a monster in this lightweight chassis.
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