When the FR-S get a HP increase...

[chaoskaze]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

My childhood Hero! Don't know how but All I remember before kindergarten was Turbo Button.

[MikeyBatz]

Most likely people will complain too much power.

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

One of the division of the company I work for is leading the charge in development of autonomous cars and believe me they are closer to being reality then anybody would suspect!
We think we have nannies now, ooooh just wait!!!!

I will never by a car that has the ability to send me a ticket.

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

That they mucked it up. Seriously, it's a rare feat for automotive manufacturers to make a car 'better' in every aspect on the second generation, something is changed (otherwise it would still be the first) that alienates a not insignificant portion of the original fanbase.

The big thing is weight, I fully expect that a horsepower increase will only come into play as they chuck sound deadening and creature comforts at this thing to draw in the 'average consumer' bumping this car up to $30k and 3,000 lbs. I have not forgotten press releases about Scion 'moving upmarket'.

Just like the 911, MR2, RX-7, Miata, S2000, 240Z, M3, or any other number of sports cars, the first iteration will be the purest, rawest, most enthusiast minded offering. All of the above cars got faster, bigger engines, more amenities, bigger tires, better brakes, more competent suspension, and on and on, but the first generations are held in the highest regard by many for the things that were 'lost' along the way.

Edit: Don't know why I didn't think of it, can we make a subforum for the next generation car? Immediately move all discussions about next year power increases and such over there so I can only enter when I feel the need to pontificate and argue?

Newsletter?

[Teseo]

Its me or this thread become "what you hate most about frs/brz"
I had deja vu

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

Newsletter?

?

[bcj]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

I will never by a car that has the ability to send me a ticket.

... for eating bogies in the HOV lane

[Tenament05]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

One of the division of the company I work for is leading the charge in development of autonomous cars and believe me they are closer to being reality then anybody would suspect!
We think we have nannies now, ooooh just wait!!!!

hi tesla?!

[themajesticone]

When the HP increase happens I bet people will say, I wish they stuck with the original idea!

[BlackMonarch]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

North American Model Year 2017 Refresh. Rest of world gets some of this in 2016, but the big news will be Scion moving to multiple trim levels per vehicle to improve margins and offer audience features missing from the single model. Base model becomes "Sport" model. "Performance and "Touring" models added to sit above base. Weight remains unchanged in the base model 2700 lbs.

"Sport" (base) model gets:
1. Revised front and rear fascia. Softer edges, no more fangs, less aggressive headlamp shape. More modern treatments all around.
2. Revised HIDs and LED lighting to go with the new bumpers standard
3. No Automatic transmission offered.
4. Max Performance summer tires on revised wheels
5. Cricket-free fuel pump
6. Reduced torque dip
7. 10-15 more HP at the crank (now 210-215 stock)

"Performance" model gets (all Sport model+) +$4-$5k over base
1. More aggressive front and rear fascia than Sport or Touring model
2. UHP Summer tires on +1 wheel upgrade (18")
3. TRD and/or STi BBK
4. OEM Short shifter kit
5. Faux CF trim in cabin
6. Revised steering wheel
7. Shift knob
8. OEM AOS / Catch can
9. OEM Oil cooler
10. 25 more HP at the crank (now 225 stock)
11. Loud paint
12. Badges

"Touring" Model gets + $4k price over base
1. Automatic Transmission only
2. Sound tube delete
3. A LOT of additional sound insulation
4. Leather interior
5. Dual zone climate
6. All Season tires on softer suspension
7. Pearl paint with even more pearl shit
8. Chrome
9. Understeer

This is what Mazda did with the RX-8. And it failed miserably. I would hope Toyota\Subaru know better.

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

?

I wish to subscribe.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

I wish to subscribe.

I'll let you know when I get fired for spending too much time on this forum and start writing because I got tired of pushing papers.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Teseo

Its me or this thread become "what you hate most about frs/brz"
I had deja vu

Ya I noticed that a while back. Although what people complain about now will be what they complain about then anyway so still sort of accurate.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tenament05

hi tesla?!

Nope. Guess again!