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sw20kosh · 10-21-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Alright, so who's interested in actually having me sit with them at thunderhill, other than Jeff and Garland?

So you are coming? Have you driven thill before?

spitz · 10-21-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Alright, so who's interested in actually having me sit with them at thunderhill, other than Jeff and Garland?

Mike - Will you be there both days? If so, I'd be interested in a middle of the day session on Sunday.

CSG Mike · 10-21-2014, 03:50 PM

Still TBD on if I'll go or not... basically it comes down to will I make more money coaching at a driving school or privately...

I haven't driven Thill, but if I go, I'll be driving too.

PMok · 10-21-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Alright, so who's interested in actually having me sit with them at thunderhill, other than Jeff and Garland?

I'd be interested... going both days, so flexible on which day.

not so excited about the rain... RS3s are my only tires.

sw20kosh · 10-21-2014, 04:05 PM

weather.gov

Saturday A chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 68.
Sunday Mostly sunny, with a high near 70.

BRZChix · 10-22-2014, 12:43 PM

hi there:

i have a point-by driving spot for SUNDAY if you are interested.

Else i also have someone who has a SATURDAY SOLO spot who wants to trade for his for my spot for SUNDAY POINT-BY.

have fun at thill this weekend everyone. looks like no rain and definitely not 100F.

darkonion · 10-22-2014, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PMok

I'd be interested... going both days, so flexible on which day.

not so excited about the rain... RS3s are my only tires.

I think you should be fine. I don't know much about the RS3's, but I don't think you would gain much, if any, from running an all-season tire. Summer tires are really a misnomer. They are really 3 season tires. Generally speaking, they'll perform just as well, if not better than all-season tires in the wet. Where summer tires really suffer is in freezing temperatures. That's where the all-season tires would be much more useful.

spitz · 10-22-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by darkonion

I think you should be fine. I don't know much about the RS3's, but I don't think you would gain much, if any, from running an all-season tire. Summer tires are really a misnomer. They are really 3 season tires. Generally speaking, they'll perform just as well, if not better than all-season tires in the wet. Where summer tires really suffer is in freezing temperatures. That's where the all-season tires would be much more useful.

I'm not a tire expert, and agree he'll be fine for a leisure track day. However from what I understand, RS3's differ from normal summer tires in that they are much closer to an R-compound tire, thus requiring a higher temperature to operate at full grip. This should be his main concern, needing the properly warm up the tires, not only dealing with less than optimal treading. I struggled with this when I drove my Exige w/ R888's in the rain - and only experience made me faster! So perhaps PMok should try his RS3's

. PMok seems to also compete in 86Cup, so if he's aiming for good lap times... probably rains all the way.

unsurety · 10-22-2014, 04:19 PM

@CSG Mike

I'll be going saturday and I am definitely interested.

weather.gov says 50% chance of rain on saturday. weather.com says 90% chance. I really hope it rains!

CSG Mike · 10-22-2014, 04:29 PM

Lets get an interest list going and if there's enough, I might be able to convince the boss to let me take the CSG BRZ for the trip.

darkonion · 10-22-2014, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spitz

I'm not a tire expert, and agree he'll be fine for a leisure track day. However from what I understand, RS3's differ from normal summer tires in that they are much closer to an R-compound tire, thus requiring a higher temperature to operate at full grip. This should be his main concern, needing the properly warm up the tires, not only dealing with less than optimal treading. I struggled with this when I drove my Exige w/ R888's in the rain - and only experience made me faster! So perhaps PMok should try his RS3's

. PMok seems to also compete in 86Cup, so if he's aiming for good lap times... probably rains all the way.

Sure. I can agree with that. I think the RS3 tire may not generate the most grip in wet condition, but I think that it will still generate a lot of grip and more grip than most all-season tire in the wet. I also agree that with the introduction of water/rain, it'll be harder for people to warm up their tires. But I think this will be true for all drivers/tires though.

I think the RS3's will be fine.

CSG Mike · 10-22-2014, 07:05 PM

@unsurity - Saturday - interested
@PMok - Both days - interested
@spitz - Sunday - 1 session, mid day

I gotta let the driving schools know by tonight if I'm available for them this weekend or not.

BRZChix · 10-22-2014, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Lets get an interest list going and if there's enough, I might be able to convince the boss to let me take the CSG BRZ for the trip.

you have a boss?

Bring the CSG BRZ since everyone wants that suspension... (if u go tHill, sleep with ur eyes open in case someone wanna swap suspension with u) lol

CSG Mike · 10-22-2014, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZChix

you have a boss?

Bring the CSG BRZ since everyone wants that suspension... (if u go tHill, sleep with ur eyes open in case someone wanna swap suspension with u) lol

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