AT Deserve love too - SSP Clutches Teaser -- // DSG Performance Exclusive - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Jason@DSG · 10-10-2014, 04:19 PM

Within the next few weeks, the brand new SSP clutch packs for the AT Twins will be dropping - exclusively at DSG Performance.

There will be 2 versions, Stage 1 & Stage 2 to cater to the different power levels one may see in their high horsepower builds. Stage 2 will not be available for purchase at initial release.

Testing was wrapped up this past week and the first batches are official in production. We're stoked! Testing went VERY well and the results were great! 400lbs/tq Stage I

Stay tuned for the official sales thread in the vendor marketplace.

Teaser shots below:

Jason@DSG · 10-10-2014, 04:19 PM

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Tye300 · 10-10-2014, 05:24 PM

Nice one Jason! Will you be doing a group buy?

Jason@DSG · 10-10-2014, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tye300

Nice one Jason! Will you be doing a group buy?

Definitely will, I'm just waiting until they're all in-stock so there's no shipping delays and I'll be putting something up in the sales section

Stay tuned!!

Have a great week-end everyone

LucidMomentum · 10-10-2014, 06:51 PM

Okay, I'm planning out upgrades for my AT but I have to ask, will this offer any performance changes unless I pair it with more HP / Torque? I'm purely stock engine wise right now.

Element Tuning · 10-10-2014, 07:19 PM

I wish I had an automatic in my race car! The manual is too fragile

BRZPDX · 10-10-2014, 08:42 PM

is the auto more beefier than the Manual? I've heard of torque converters melting, I don't do hard launches, do you think the TQ converter is a weak point or the clutch packs? I am not sure if I should put money into re-inforcing the current AT transmission or get something else all together. My goal is about 400whp, currently at 300whp.

Element Tuning · 10-10-2014, 08:55 PM

I don't think anyone has broked an auto yet even at some pretty decent power. Manuals are popping in the 400 TQ range on grippy tires. Don't get me wrong you need to "work" the auto but typically once you get the line pressure right and you don't slip the clutches they will be pretty robust!

Autos have other integration issue with mods etc. so it's not downside free.

drewbot · 10-10-2014, 11:08 PM

Ugh sounds like the perfect winter project

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Jason@DSG · 10-14-2014, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LucidMomentum

Okay, I'm planning out upgrades for my AT but I have to ask, will this offer any performance changes unless I pair it with more HP / Torque? I'm purely stock engine wise right now.

You would have to pair it up with a more aggressive valvebody, but stock power levels the stock clutches are fine.

These clutches were designed for forced induction and 300-400tq range with launches.

Jason@DSG · 10-14-2014, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

is the auto more beefier than the Manual? I've heard of torque converters melting, I don't do hard launches, do you think the TQ converter is a weak point or the clutch packs? I am not sure if I should put money into re-inforcing the current AT transmission or get something else all together. My goal is about 400whp, currently at 300whp.

SSP actually offers a fully upgrade Torque Converter also:

Directly from the SSP site:

SSP A960E Modified Torque Converter Stall is raised 500-700 RPM above factory specifications, thus helping to get the turbocharged BRZ/FRS's off the line quicker. The BRZ/FRS have a factory stall of 2540 +/- 150 rpm. A stall converter would benefit both a turbo or N/A car.

A torque converter is essentially the automatic transmission's equivalent to a clutch. It transfers power from the engine to the transmission. It acts as a fluid coupling connecting engine rotational power to the transmission’s input shaft.

It multiplies torque from the engine when additional performance is desired. A typical torque converter will have a torque multiplication ratio in the area of 2.5:1. The main point to remember is that all properly functioning torque converters do indeed multiply torque during initial acceleration.

The torque converter also serves another extremely important function in a car. The engine must be able to connect and disconnect from the differential, so the vehicle can stop moving while the engine is still running and the transmission is in gear. In the case of an automatic transmission, it is the torque converter that performs this connect/disconnect function and allows a car’s engine to idle while it’s in gear.

Nevermore · 10-14-2014, 02:05 PM

So this is for FI guys? It wouldn't benefit a tuned N/A with full bolt-ons?

Jason@DSG · 10-14-2014, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevermore

So this is for FI guys? It wouldn't benefit a tuned N/A with full bolt-ons?

It definitely would if you're someone who autocrosses/drag races. These clutches can handle a lot more abuse!

cdrazic93 · 10-14-2014, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Element Tuning

I don't think anyone has broked an auto yet even at some pretty decent power. Manuals are popping in the 400 TQ range on grippy tires. Don't get me wrong you need to "work" the auto but typically once you get the line pressure right and you don't slip the clutches they will be pretty robust!

Autos have other integration issue with mods etc. so it's not downside free.

Broked? Very scientific

What kind of mods are prohibited on the auto? The only thing i can think of is some turbo kits only come in manual trim (ptuning)

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