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Old 09-29-2014, 06:01 PM   #15
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Oil catch can doesn't increase longevity...



If changing the oil was good for the engine, we'd be seeing lower oil change intervals, not longer. In fact there's an SAE paper on how changing oil too often can lead to increased wear as it takes time for the additive pack to activate and work to protect the motor.


So you never change your oil? 7500 mile intervals are recommended...I'll stick to my change the oil statement. As for the "mods" I'm pretty sure a normally driven car would never need any mods to last a very long time. There are lots of bone stock vehicles with 300k+ miles on the original driveline. They probably aren't driven by asshats though
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Old 09-29-2014, 06:51 PM   #16
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As for the "mods" I'm pretty sure a normally driven car would never need any mods to last a very long time. There are lots of bone stock vehicles with 300k+ miles on the original driveline. They probably aren't driven by asshats though
Exactly.

If one were driving it normally, regular care will make the car last a long time.

If one were to drive it aggressively or take it to high RPMs often, you'd need things like oil coolers, catch cans, etc to improve longevity.

Mods need to reflect the owner and the driving conditions, it should not reflect a glaring need on the car.

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Old 09-29-2014, 07:58 PM   #17
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So you never change your oil? 7500 mile intervals are recommended...I'll stick to my change the oil statement. As for the "mods" I'm pretty sure a normally driven car would never need any mods to last a very long time. There are lots of bone stock vehicles with 300k+ miles on the original driveline. They probably aren't driven by asshats though


Changing the oil filter is more important than changing the oil itself. I know someone that runs oil analysis and redline oil that changes the filter ever 5K miles, takes the oil sample, and then tops the oil back off. He's done this for a few years now and the oil analysis still shows the oil is fine. Not in this car, but you get the point.


Also oil change interval was changed to 6K miles for 2015.

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Exactly.

If one were driving it normally, regular care will make the car last a long time.

If one were to drive it aggressively or take it to high RPMs often, you'd need things like oil coolers, catch cans, etc to improve longevity.

Mods need to reflect the owner and the driving conditions, it should not reflect a glaring need on the car.

-alex


Lets be honest here, the car is a performance focused sports car, it's GOING to be driven aggressively. This isn't a Camry...
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:33 PM   #18
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Lets be honest here, the car is a performance focused sports car, it's GOING to be driven aggressively. This isn't a Camry...
While I would love to agree, I also want to be realistic to the OP because the question itself sets up the wrong type of answer.

And I do know two original owners of a Nissan 240SX, both bought by ladies in their early 20s who still own the same car 20+ years later. Neither one of them is driven hard and I can see tons of young adults driving this car daily without pushing it.

Or just look at all the original owners of a Miata. There's a lot of them as well.

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Old 09-30-2014, 01:17 AM   #19
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Get a tune. Seriously, most of the tunes I know of run less knock than the factory tune.

Aside from that, use good fluids and change them often.
This brings to question the amount of knock the factory tune sees with 93 octane fuel, or whatever Japanese premium grade fuel they used to test this car at Subaru versus 91 CA piss water. Is a tune really that beneficial when the intended grade of high octane fuel is being used? Or did Subaru engineers really drop the ball on the tune.

I hear the the MY15 WRX also knocks quite a bit on 91 octane fuel.
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It's early here...but are people really arguing an aftermarket tune helps the longevity of the engine?

What is this I don't even....
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:11 AM   #21
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It's early here...but are people really arguing an aftermarket tune helps the longevity of the engine?

What is this I don't even....
At least for the MY 2013 BRZs, the factory will not put on a ROM that addresses the DI seal issue (transient timing advance).

So unless you want blown DI seals, you need to get a tune that corrects the problem.

Toyota will fix the 2013 FR-Ss, SOA will not.
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Stay stock and follow the user manual's suggestions. No tuner or after market company has tested their changes in your car like the factory. They don't care so much, because they don't have a warranty to chase them. Even if they wanted to test, they don't have the resources to do so.
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It's early here...but are people really arguing an aftermarket tune helps the longevity of the engine?

What is this I don't even....
Yes that can be true but arguing?

What is this I don't even.....
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Exactly.

If one were driving it normally, regular care will make the car last a long time.

If one were to drive it aggressively or take it to high RPMs often, you'd need things like oil coolers, catch cans, etc to improve longevity.

Mods need to reflect the owner and the driving conditions, it should not reflect a glaring need on the car.

-alex

I disagree. As one poster said maintain your car properly according to your service manual with only oem or better than oem products. My previous car went well over 100k and was hammered a lot. Not one issue with the engine. Oh yeah I did keep it stock besides an air filter.
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Yes that can be true but arguing?

What is this I don't even.....
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Stay stock and follow the user manual's suggestions. No tuner or after market company has tested their changes in your car like the factory. They don't care so much, because they don't have a warranty to chase them. Even if they wanted to test, they don't have the resources to do so.
This is not true. For example, stock STi's have dangerous AFRs to meet emissions requirements. A proper aftermarket tune will not only unlock more power, but also increase reliability. Note that I said a proper tune, some tuners do not understand or respect the concept of correct flow (air/fuel) and are basically experimenting with your car/money. Not all tunes/tuners are created equal.
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