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Old 09-11-2014, 04:42 PM   #29
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Funny. I have a corolla too and experience the same feelings.
HAHA this is hilarious. My wife has a '12 corolla too, and i share the same experience.

Now we fight who gets to drive the FRS to work.
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:05 PM   #30
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I definitely had a similar experience. After driving my FR-S for a month, and driving it a lot, I had to take my old 4Runner to the shop. When I got in I immediately tried to put the clutch in before remembering it's automatic. Then when I was driving, it was the weirdest feeling. Imagine the polar opposite of everything that makes the FR-S great: it was tall, the transmission was an automatic truck transmission (no more needs to be said there), and the steering input/response felt incredibly soft and unresponsive. I still love the 4Runner, but in comparison it was night and day.
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Old 09-14-2014, 04:11 PM   #31
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When ever I get into my gf's lancer (gts) it feels so sloppy on the road and the brake pedal is like mush lol
its an auto right? i use to have one..its the CVT transmission. i hate CVTs!
if you look at the specs of a manual then that of an auto with CVT you'll notice they usually have the same horsepower but the torque is way down on the CVT.
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Old 09-14-2014, 07:28 PM   #33
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its an auto right? i use to have one..its the CVT transmission. i hate CVTs!
if you look at the specs of a manual then that of an auto with CVT you'll notice they usually have the same horsepower but the torque is way down on the CVT.
Ya those CVTs don't have any distinctive shift points and can feel weird as hell to drive!
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I wonder if the '15 Mustang will improve meaningfully in any of these areas. I know it's lower & wider & has IRS, but will it actually be fun to drive ? The '12 GT's I tested were bo-ring to drive.
I think the '15 will definitely be an improvement over the outgoing gen, BUT...

It didn't really get any lighter, I think it actually gained weight.

I knew the fr-s was really well balanced, but didn't really notice until I drove the outgoing stang and could feel the spongey suspension, the body roll, the nose heavy engine diving into every corner.

I'd really only consider the newest gen if they made it super light. Even then, i don't think i'll find a car in my budget besides the twins that has the same level of driver experience and engagement.

For me personally, and I feel many can agree, the fr-s is the best handling car under 30k.

Besides the miata, theres no other car with the handling, balance, looks, and rear wheel drive of the twins.

Everyone points at the wrx, the focus st and other turbo hot hatches, cheaper v6 muscle cars.

All of those pale in comparison to what the fr-s gives you.
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I drive a 2002 WRX stage 2 with Ohlins coilovers, sway bars, 4 pot swap, welded rear diff, LSD in the front etc etc, jumping back to the BRZ makes it feel civilized but totally underpowered.

Driving my 1994 Impreza L super modified shitbox makes both feel amazing...
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