Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by DriftHappens

okay, update time. it is the harness that goes from the interior to the engine bay. I pulled it out and rigged it up a bit, went to start it up and 28v. clicked the switch, it was pushing air. the wire is still not 100%, i had to jiggle it a bit, but i'll solve that tomorrow. Woot.

Glad to hear you figured it out enjoy the boost and new found torque

[fenton]

Got a update from Rob today.

The wheels just shipped TODAY, september 12th. He said it is very normal in the custom machining world for orders to take up to 3 months from payment received to parts in hand. Once Rob gets these wheels he will begin testing them and then start assembling some packages.

Should definitely know a more solid date in the coming weeks.

Thanks everyone who has remained patient, i can assure you it will be worth the wait.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

Oh well, I tried to explain it. Congrats on making more whp and wtq with a bone stock engine and pump gas than current ESC owners can manage with headers, HFC front pipes, e85 and better tuning. Must have been that cold Canadian weather...

You are missing 3 huge things.

1. His car is a AT, it will be at a 10-15hp disadvantage at least right from the get go.
2. He has the entire stock catback, this is the most restrictive part of the exhaust, i have a full exhaust with no mufflers.
3. Im running 94 octane in much cooler temperatures and humidity than him, this makes a huge difference in numbers.

Yes he has e85 but that will only swing horsepower 20 hp up on a good day, 15 up on a average day. The Delta ends up with him being right about where he is.

On top of all of this, different dyno's. What so hard to understand about this? You must just love arguing.

Shiv on a dynojet has gotten consistently 205hp with the tq250 with his headers and a full exhaust. He was getting 223 to 225 with this same setup and e85.

[DAEMANO]

@fenton

Check that, 4 huge things.

4. Elevation - Calgary, CA: 3,400 ft. - Danville, CA, USA 358 ft.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

@fenton

Check that, 4 huge things.

4. Elevation - Calgary, CA: 3,400 ft. - Danville, CA, USA 358 ft.

Check that: freddys a moron.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

@fenton

Check that, 4 huge things.

4. Elevation - Calgary, CA: 3,400 ft. - Danville, CA, USA 358 ft.

VR46 temperature was 94F

My dyno run was 50F i believe

[Fast_Freddy]

Originally Posted by fenton

You are missing 3 huge things.

1. His car is a AT, it will be at a 10-15hp disadvantage at least right from the get go.
2. He has the entire stock catback, this is the most restrictive part of the exhaust, i have a full exhaust with no mufflers.
3. Im running 94 octane in much cooler temperatures and humidity than him, this makes a huge difference in numbers.

Yes he has e85 but that will only swing horsepower 20 hp up on a good day, 15 up on a average day. The Delta ends up with him being right about where he is.

On top of all of this, different dyno's. What so hard to understand about this? You must just love arguing.

Shiv on a dynojet has gotten consistently 205hp with the tq250 with his headers and a full exhaust. He was getting 223 to 225 with this same setup and e85.

I'm not missing anything but you seem to be.


1) Valid point that I had already considered.


2) The stock cat-back isn't very restrictive at all. The most restrictive part of our exhaust is the front half and I have the dyno results to prove this.

3) The difference between 93 and 94 octane isn't much really. 105 octane e85 is a different story.


4) The dyno should compensate for the altitude difference but if not, it hardly explains why your result would be higher when it should be lower.


Think for a moment. 227 whp and 204 wtq from an early ESC setup running pump gas, stock exhaust and and BRZedit tune? Does that honestly makes sense to you when the same car only makes 200/175 on a Dynojet?

[Fast_Freddy]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Check that: freddys a moron.

Good catch, rocket scientist! I forgot how much more power cars make at higher altitudes.


Moron...

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

I'm not missing anything but you seem to be.


1) Valid point that I had already considered.


2) The stock cat-back isn't very restrictive at all. The most restrictive part of our exhaust is the front half and I have the dyno results to prove this.

3) The difference between 93 and 94 octane isn't much really. 105 octane e85 is a different story.


4) The dyno should compensate for the altitude difference but if not, it hardly explains why your result would be higher when it should be lower.


Think for a moment. 227 whp and 204 wtq from an early ESC setup running pump gas, stock exhaust and and BRZedit tune? Does that honestly makes sense to you when the same car only makes 200/175 on a Dynojet?

I didnt make 227.

I made 206 on the DynoDynamics(in fall) and 202 on a dynojet(in summer)?

[GotBRZ1691]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

Good catch, rocket scientist! I forgot how much more power cars make at higher altitudes.


Moron...

Why are you such a ****? What is wrong with you? And what do you have against the ESC? Besides the fact that you have been proven wrong time and time again? I've read the whole thread from start to finish. Yes there have been some exaggerations but who doesn't boast the product they bought(lucky enough to get for free as prototype) and represent.

[enwave]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

I'm not missing anything but you seem to be.


1) Valid point that I had already considered.


2) The stock cat-back isn't very restrictive at all. The most restrictive part of our exhaust is the front half and I have the dyno results to prove this.

3) The difference between 93 and 94 octane isn't much really. 105 octane e85 is a different story.


4) The dyno should compensate for the altitude difference but if not, it hardly explains why your result would be higher when it should be lower.


Think for a moment. 227 whp and 204 wtq from an early ESC setup running pump gas, stock exhaust and and BRZedit tune? Does that honestly makes sense to you when the same car only makes 200/175 on a Dynojet?

Well, you are missing something big -- you're comparing max power numbers. We all know boost tapers off towards redline anyway, and we're okay with that.

Everything else you're saying does make sense, and I agree that we don't have tons of perfect before/after comparisons for perfect numeric comparison. But we can always look at line shape, and I'm pretty damn happy with it.

I'd love to do an area under the curve analysis when I have time, but it should be pretty apparent just by looking at charts. We make significant power over stock and even over other boost applications down low, and that's a ton of fun. It just feels like you put a nice strong on-demand V6 into the car without the extra weight.

You don't get the full picture from max power numbers...



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[Urmyson]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

I'm not missing anything but you seem to be.


1) Valid point that I had already considered.


2) The stock cat-back isn't very restrictive at all. The most restrictive part of our exhaust is the front half and I have the dyno results to prove this.

3) The difference between 93 and 94 octane isn't much really. 105 octane e85 is a different story.


4) The dyno should compensate for the altitude difference but if not, it hardly explains why your result would be higher when it should be lower.


Think for a moment. 227 whp and 204 wtq from an early ESC setup running pump gas, stock exhaust and and BRZedit tune? Does that honestly makes sense to you when the same car only makes 200/175 on a Dynojet?

Freddy,

I've had the ESC for about 6 months, and for $1600.00 I don't think I could have spent my money on any other mod that gives me this much enjoyment. I don't have any dyno numbers because it seems like a waste for me to get a sheet of paper for a couple of hundred buck saying I make this much power. But the difference in acceleration from pre to post ESC is unreal. I went from a car that looked fast and could hardly beat a Camry(red light racing). Now I can hang with a boosted GTI which is pretty impressive to me for $1600.00.

[DAEMANO]

The whole point of a troll is to make the conversation and attention turn to them instead of the topic. They use half-truths and accusations to accomplish this. This is him. Sadly he also abuses the patience and kindness of people in this group to get his rocks off. The focus needs to be turned back to the Phantom ESC and away from his nonsense.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

The whole point of a troll is to make the conversation and attention turn to them instead of the topic. They use half-truths and accusations to accomplish this. This is him. Sadly he also abuses the patience and kindness of people in this group to get his rocks off. The focus needs to be turned back to the Phantom ESC and away from his nonsense.

So back to topic... My car has been running better then ever.

I was thinking we should start with a best tips practice since Rob is about to release the next set here soonish.

So I'll start with one my favorite tips:

Follow the order of electrical connections closely so as not to run the risk of breaking the controller.