Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[fenton]

Originally Posted by GerryL

I will be running a road course track event at Buttonwillow Raceway (central CA) in a few weeks and want to temporarily bypass the system for the weekend. I don't want to push the charging hardware limit and want consistent laps. I was going to just substitute my Perin inlet tube back in, and reflash back to stock. Do I need to change or reverse anything else to keep it running healthy. Can all the battery stuff and wiring stay in place for the ride as long as the switch is off?

I will also have unleaded race gas available and was wondering if anyone had run any of the other "stock" tunes that come with the OFT device and had any recommendations.

Just replace your stock intake tube and keep the system disarmed. No need to remove anything.

[GerryL]

Thanks, I assume the tune would need to be changed back too. Is that not the case?

[fenton]

Originally Posted by GerryL

Thanks, I assume the tune would need to be changed back too. Is that not the case?

I would switch to the tune that accompanies your mods...either stage 1 or stage2 ots tunes.

[GerryL]

Originally Posted by fenton

I would switch to the tune that accompanies your mods...either stage 1 or stage2 ots tunes.

Thanks!

[Fast_Freddy]

Originally Posted by fenton

While I agree comparing dynos isn't a true judge of performnace... we all do it, and in most cases it is the only way to draw ANY conclusions, so I am okay with your comparison.

The main difference between the dynos in my opinion is the fact they are different brands. Dyno dynamics read low...very similar to mustangs. On a dyno dynamics I got 167hp with ecutek stage 1. Other cars were getting 155 to 160 stock.... And theses were MTs. Its pretty easy for a AT to get ten HP less that a MT....I figure in ptunings dyno a AT would get around 150hp....still looking for proof on that one though.

As far as my highest results....I'm running the same tune of everyone else....and shivs OTS tune is stronger than the custom tune that I got from BRZedit.

Looking forward to @Shiv@Openflash to try out the new tq300 that I have. Double the boost at redline makes a big difference when it's non parasitic.

You can't say that Dyno Dynamics read low without also saying that they can also read high. It all depends on the operator. Dyno Dynamics has a "comparison mode" that is supposed to read Dynojet equivalent numbers. From what I've seen it is close but actually higher than a real Dynojet. This is why every N/A 86 that has exceeded 200 whp on pump gas to date has done so on a Dyno Dynamics. One guy even hit 206 whp by removing the weather correction.The same configurations are only reaching 195 whp on un-cheatable Dynojets.


This thread is full of Dyno Dynamics results displayed in the higher reading "comparison mode" with the possible exception of VR46. It would be nice to hear from PTuning as to what mode they used to display his results. I would guess that they used normal mode since his whp result is lower than typical for N/A on e85. This means that my dyno is not a good baseline unless some correction is factored in and then it all becomes guesswork with very questionable results.


As for the custom tuning I was referring to the results obtained by Shiv after custom tuning, not yours. Anyway, if nothing else, I suppose the message we could take away from this is to always take Dyno Dynamics numbers with a large grain of salt.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

You can't say that Dyno Dynamics read low without also saying that they can also read high. It all depends on the operator. Dyno Dynamics has a "comparison mode" that is supposed to read Dynojet equivalent numbers. From what I've seen it is close but actually higher than a real Dynojet. This is why every N/A 86 that has exceeded 200 whp on pump gas to date has done so on a Dyno Dynamics. One guy even hit 206 whp by removing the weather correction.The same configurations are only reaching 195 whp on un-cheatable Dynojets.


This thread is full of Dyno Dynamics results displayed in the higher reading "comparison mode" with the possible exception of VR46. It would be nice to hear from PTuning as to what mode they used to display his results. I would guess that they used normal mode since his whp result is lower than typical for N/A on e85. This means that my dyno is not a good baseline unless some correction is factored in and then it all becomes guesswork with very questionable results.


As for the custom tuning I was referring to the results obtained by Shiv after custom tuning, not yours. Anyway, if nothing else, I suppose the message we could take away from this is to always take Dyno Dynamics numbers with a large grain of salt.

This guy tries every angle. Sorry man, not going to work. How many troll posts in this thread now, have you broken 100? Most trolls like to troll products they don't own. Have you gotten your F.I. yet Fredo?

[Robftss]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

You can't say that Dyno Dynamics read low without also saying that they can also read high. It all depends on the operator. Dyno Dynamics has a "comparison mode" that is supposed to read Dynojet equivalent numbers. From what I've seen it is close but actually higher than a real Dynojet. This is why every N/A 86 that has exceeded 200 whp on pump gas to date has done so on a Dyno Dynamics. One guy even hit 206 whp by removing the weather correction.The same configurations are only reaching 195 whp on un-cheatable Dynojets.


This thread is full of Dyno Dynamics results displayed in the higher reading "comparison mode" with the possible exception of VR46. It would be nice to hear from PTuning as to what mode they used to display his results. I would guess that they used normal mode since his whp result is lower than typical for N/A on e85. This means that my dyno is not a good baseline unless some correction is factored in and then it all becomes guesswork with very questionable results.


As for the custom tuning I was referring to the results obtained by Shiv after custom tuning, not yours. Anyway, if nothing else, I suppose the message we could take away from this is to always take Dyno Dynamics numbers with a large grain of salt.

[Namuna]

Another question from the peanut gallery (did try searching the thread first)...

Are the effects of the Phantom cumulative with exhaust upgrades (particularly header upgrade)?

So let's say (completely arbitrary numbers here) that at stock I make 150tq @4,000rpm.

Now let's say that with the Phantom installed only, now I make 185tq @4,000rpm (so increase of 35tq @4,000rpm with just the Phantom).

Then I remove the Phantom and install just a header, now I make 160tq @4,000rpm (so increase of 10tq @4,000rpm with just the header).

And now, finally, I add on the Phantom along with the header...Would I now see 195tq @4,000rpm (the cumulative gain from both)?

Thanks.

[nlowell]

Originally Posted by GerryL

I will be running a road course track event at Buttonwillow Raceway (central CA) in a few weeks and want to temporarily bypass the system for the weekend. I don't want to push the charging hardware limit and want consistent laps. I was going to just substitute my Perin inlet tube back in, and reflash back to stock. Do I need to change or reverse anything else to keep it running healthy. Can all the battery stuff and wiring stay in place for the ride as long as the switch is off?



I will also have unleaded race gas available and was wondering if anyone had run any of the other "stock" tunes that come with the OFT device and had any recommendations.

I'll be there too. I'll find you to say Hi!

[Fast_Freddy]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

This guy tries every angle. Sorry man, not going to work. How many troll posts in this thread now, have you broken 100? Most trolls like to troll products they don't own. Have you gotten your F.I. yet Fredo?

So are you saying that all dyno results are directly comparable? Or just the ones you choose to support your agenda?

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

So are you saying that all dyno results are directly comparable? Or just the ones you choose to support your agenda?

Nice try.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Nice try.

All I have to say is.... That wizard is from the moon!

[GerryL]

Originally Posted by nlowell

I'll be there too. I'll find you to say Hi!

Very cool, looking forward to it. Maybe we should leave the ESC's on and run our own class...

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Namuna

Another question from the peanut gallery (did try searching the thread first)...

Are the effects of the Phantom cumulative with exhaust upgrades (particularly header upgrade)?

So let's say (completely arbitrary numbers here) that at stock I make 150tq @4,000rpm.

Now let's say that with the Phantom installed only, now I make 185tq @4,000rpm (so increase of 35tq @4,000rpm with just the Phantom).

Then I remove the Phantom and install just a header, now I make 160tq @4,000rpm (so increase of 10tq @4,000rpm with just the header).

And now, finally, I add on the Phantom along with the header...Would I now see 195tq @4,000rpm (the cumulative gain from both)?

Thanks.

short answer =no. You will get gains from using them both together but they don't stack like that. It's the same as every other mod. The main gains with the header will be when you're not in boost.