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haison · 09-06-2014, 07:50 PM

I recall that changing camber through the plates will adjust the also. How much will toe change with negative 2 degree?

Turkish · 09-06-2014, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by neurokinetik

More than alright, DO IT NOW. Get yourself at least 2, and better 3 degrees up front.

-3 seems like a bit much, I'm currently awaiting back ordered camber plates and I am hoping to buy lca's in a month or two. My goal is -2 up front and -1.5 in the rear. Currently at -1.2 front and -2 in the rear...

bimmer635csi · 09-07-2014, 08:05 AM

Camber is determined by the tire you are running and how you drive it. There is no "magic number" that fits all cars.

Use camber to keep the tire temps even across the tire for the toe setting that feels best for you.

Scooby South · 09-07-2014, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Turkish

-3 seems like a bit much, I'm currently awaiting back ordered camber plates and I am hoping to buy lca's in a month or two. My goal is -2 up front and -1.5 in the rear. Currently at -1.2 front and -2 in the rear...

Running -3.2 front , -1.9 rear

I drive to events with it like that.. as long as your toe is good.. should be fine..

Bill

Turkish · 09-07-2014, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooby South

Running -3.2 front , -1.9 rear

I drive to events with it like that.. as long as your toe is good.. should be fine..

Bill

Good to know. Thanks!

fstlane · 09-07-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Turkish

Good to know. Thanks!

To add another data point, I'm running -3.2f/-1.8r camber on my daily driven STX build. After 5000 miles, 80 autocross runs and (4) 20min tracks sessions, I still have nearly 5/32" of perfectly even tread wear remaining on my R-S3 v.2s. Some negative camber on these cars is necessary for maximum grip while maintaining good tread wear and driveability.

Scooby South · 09-07-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fstlane

To add another data point, I'm running -3.2f/-1.8r camber on my daily driven STX build. After 5000 miles, 80 autocross runs and (4) 20min tracks sessions, I still have nearly 5/32" of perfectly even tread wear remaining on my R-S3 v.2s. Some negative camber on these cars is necessary for maximum grip while maintaining good tread wear and driveability.

agreed..

Bill

haison · 09-07-2014, 09:48 PM

Thanks guys. . . . I have some camber bolts on order and will get an alignment after it comes in.

conedodging · 09-08-2014, 04:52 PM

Don't see rear top mounts being discussed much. Is there any known benefit to going with something like the Raceseng 1" or 2" versions, over a normal flat top mount (mooresport, etc) or is even re-using the stock rear tophat just fine? Would be with KW V3. Thanks!

Thorpedo · 09-08-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by conedodging

Don't see rear top mounts being discussed much. Is there any known benefit to going with something like the Raceseng 1" or 2" versions, over a normal flat top mount (mooresport, etc) or is even re-using the stock rear tophat just fine? Would be with KW V3. Thanks!

Interested in knowing some opinions as well. I run the whiteline ADK and don't get much dive/squat/roll so it doesn't feel necessary to me. I run the Feal 441s and have pretty limited droop in the rear. I sometimes have them float on the street if there are large bumps and I'm driving somewhat aggressively. In autocross and on track I have no issues though.

ksconekiller · 09-20-2014, 04:43 PM

I recently purchased a BRZ and have a question for those of you who have STX-type coilovers. How is the ride on the street? The stock ride is plenty firm, but it seems like a lot of that is because the stock shocks don't have much rebound control. With a set of properly valved coilovers, is the ride on 7-8k springs really any worse? I've seen comments here and there suggesting it's not, but I thought I would try to get opinions from this group.

Thanks for any responses!

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 09-22-2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ksconekiller

I recently purchased a BRZ and have a question for those of you who have STX-type coilovers. How is the ride on the street? The stock ride is plenty firm, but it seems like a lot of that is because the stock shocks don't have much rebound control. With a set of properly valved coilovers, is the ride on 7-8k springs really any worse? I've seen comments here and there suggesting it's not, but I thought I would try to get opinions from this group.

Thanks for any responses!

I don't even have coilovers and the ride is shit.

I couldn't stand driving my car everyday so I parked it and bought something else, which turned out to be equally shitty in terms of ride quality.

Thunderleg · 09-22-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ksconekiller

I recently purchased a BRZ and have a question for those of you who have STX-type coilovers. How is the ride on the street? The stock ride is plenty firm, but it seems like a lot of that is because the stock shocks don't have much rebound control. With a set of properly valved coilovers, is the ride on 7-8k springs really any worse? I've seen comments here and there suggesting it's not, but I thought I would try to get opinions from this group.

Thanks for any responses!

I use ST coilovers. Almost identical to stock going straight but with more response while turning. I recommend them for DD and occasional Auto-x.

ksconekiller · 09-22-2014, 03:37 PM

Mine won't be a daily driver, but it will get street driven on a regular basis by both me and my wife, so ride quality is a factor. When I had a Miata in STR, it had AST coilovers with springs about 4 times the stock rates, and it rode better than stock. That's the result I'm hoping for with the BRZ.

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conedodging Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '14 BRZ Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 152 Thanks: 43 Thanked 44 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	Don't see rear top mounts being discussed much. Is there any known benefit to going with something like the Raceseng 1" or 2" versions, over a normal flat top mount (mooresport, etc) or is even re-using the stock rear tophat just fine? Would be with KW V3. Thanks! Last edited by conedodging; 09-08-2014 at 05:35 PM.

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haison Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: United States Posts: 22 Thanks: 11 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	I recall that changing camber through the plates will adjust the also. How much will toe change with negative 2 degree?

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haison Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: United States Posts: 22 Thanks: 11 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	Thanks guys. . . . I have some camber bolts on order and will get an alignment after it comes in.

09-20-2014, 04:43 PM	#1103
ksconekiller Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: Kansas Posts: 95 Thanks: 15 Thanked 23 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	I recently purchased a BRZ and have a question for those of you who have STX-type coilovers. How is the ride on the street? The stock ride is plenty firm, but it seems like a lot of that is because the stock shocks don't have much rebound control. With a set of properly valved coilovers, is the ride on 7-8k springs really any worse? I've seen comments here and there suggesting it's not, but I thought I would try to get opinions from this group. Thanks for any responses!

09-22-2014, 03:37 PM	#1106
ksconekiller Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: Kansas Posts: 95 Thanks: 15 Thanked 23 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	Mine won't be a daily driver, but it will get street driven on a regular basis by both me and my wife, so ride quality is a factor. When I had a Miata in STR, it had AST coilovers with springs about 4 times the stock rates, and it rode better than stock. That's the result I'm hoping for with the BRZ.

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