(Boosted) FRS vs S2000... Dezoris strikes again. - Page 11 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jack43 · 09-04-2014, 01:47 PM

Porsche plays loose with curb weights
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-b...b-weights.html

I think they might be honest if it's a theoretical car so stripped they don't even offer it. Otherwise add 100-200lb.

tahdizzle · 09-04-2014, 01:51 PM

2778 for a limited BRZ in manual. over 2800 lbs w/ an automatic.

DarkSunrise · 09-04-2014, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

lol, where are you getting your numbers...

Regular Boxster is 2890, FRS is about 2800.

Boxster Spyder is the lightest Porsche in recent times, clocking in at 2811 claimed.

Porsche tends to be a bit "optimistic" when listing the weights for their cars. Here are some measured values from the same source:

2014 Cayman Base 6MT - 3059 lbs. [Porsche lists the base Cayman 6MT at 2910 lbs.]
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...an_first_test/

2013 FR-S Base 6MT - 2730 lbs. [Scion lists the base FR-S at 2758 lbs.]
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/specs.html

And to show the FR-S weight isn't a fluke:

2013 FR-S Base 6MT - 2737 lbs.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...gti_specs.html

Also some measured weights for the Boxster S:

2013 Boxster S 6MT - 3066 lbs. [Porsche lists the 6MT Boxster S at 2910 lbs.]
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...rack-test.html

2013 Boxster S PDK - 3155 lbs. [Porsche lists the PDK Boxster S at 2976 lbs.]
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...65-1-roa0813-2

The good news is, Porsche also under-rates their HP specs (or has minimal drivetrain loss, depending on how you look at it).

EDIT: sorry, typed Boxster when I meant Cayman.

CSG Mike · 09-04-2014, 02:13 PM

I stand by my original statement.

The new MX5 has potential... if it's got more than 185hp, FRS/BRZs everywhere will weep.

DarkSunrise · 09-04-2014, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The new MX5 has potential... if it's got more than 185hp, FRS/BRZs everywhere will weep.

It would definitely make things interesting, especially if Toyota/Subaru responded. Might light a fire under their rears.

tahdizzle · 09-04-2014, 02:32 PM

Heck yeah! UPGRADDE!

Spelled with two "D"s for double the dose of Pimping!

CSG David · 09-04-2014, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Pretty sure that car holds well over 200lbs of fluids lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Lol, LaFerrari is considerably heavier than the FRS. Way more than 100!

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Dat power doe.

Jaden · 09-04-2014, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I stand by my original statement.

The new MX5 has potential... if it's got more than 185hp, FRS/BRZs everywhere will weep.

Only if they made a coupe or a fastback coupe....

Jaden

Ganthrithor · 09-06-2014, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I stand by my original statement.

The new MX5 has potential... if it's got more than 185hp, FRS/BRZs everywhere will weep.

On the other hand, if you were going to spend 25-30k on a tiny, roofless, light-weight sports car, why not get a Lotus Elise instead? I'd take an '05 or earlier Elise over a Miata any day.

glamcem · 09-06-2014, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganthrithor

On the other hand, if you were going to spend 25-30k on a tiny, roofless, light-weight sports car, why not get a Lotus Elise instead? I'd take an '05 or earlier Elise over a Miata any day.

three reasons:

1- Reliability
2-Cost of ownership
3- possibility of losing legs in a frontal damage

Mikem53 · 09-07-2014, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganthrithor

On the other hand, if you were going to spend 25-30k on a tiny, roofless, light-weight sports car, why not get a Lotus Elise instead? I'd take an '05 or earlier Elise over a Miata any day.

Many can't fit in an Elise. Would be a lousy DD.

gramicci101 · 09-07-2014, 02:11 PM

Agreed. I loved driving it, but I had to stand in it and slide down the seat to get in, and my belt got hung up on the door striker when I got out, leaving me flailing futilely until my wife saved me. And I couldn't drive it with my shoes on because I kept hitting multiple pedals. Plus, it has a VERY solid suspension.

Ganthrithor · 09-07-2014, 07:34 PM

I guess if you live somewhere where you'd need the roof up a lot of the time, the Elise admittedly would suck. Getting in and out with the roof on is a pain in the ass.

In fairness though, I can't imagine owning a Miata as an only car either. Are they really practical enough? The trunk on the Miata looks like it couldn't handle much more than an average trip to the grocery store (though in fairness, at least your food wouldn't be cooked by the time you got home-- unlike the trunk of the Elise!).

CSG Mike · 09-07-2014, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganthrithor

On the other hand, if you were going to spend 25-30k on a tiny, roofless, light-weight sports car, why not get a Lotus Elise instead? I'd take an '05 or earlier Elise over a Miata any day.

Still has no power... :p

Your name reminds me of a certain carrier...

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09-04-2014, 02:13 PM	#144
CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,564 Thanks: 8,942 Thanked 14,213 Times in 6,856 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s)	I stand by my original statement. The new MX5 has potential... if it's got more than 185hp, FRS/BRZs everywhere will weep.

09-07-2014, 02:11 PM	#152
gramicci101 Off Topic Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 4,610 Thanks: 2,369 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,170 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s)	Agreed. I loved driving it, but I had to stand in it and slide down the seat to get in, and my belt got hung up on the door striker when I got out, leaving me flailing futilely until my wife saved me. And I couldn't drive it with my shoes on because I kept hitting multiple pedals. Plus, it has a VERY solid suspension.

09-07-2014, 07:34 PM	#153
Ganthrithor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: '13 BRZ, '06 997, Other Things(TM) Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 1,078 Thanks: 1,715 Thanked 670 Times in 351 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s)	I guess if you live somewhere where you'd need the roof up a lot of the time, the Elise admittedly would suck. Getting in and out with the roof on is a pain in the ass. In fairness though, I can't imagine owning a Miata as an only car either. Are they really practical enough? The trunk on the Miata looks like it couldn't handle much more than an average trip to the grocery store (though in fairness, at least your food wouldn't be cooked by the time you got home-- unlike the trunk of the Elise!).

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