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Old 08-27-2014, 11:38 PM   #15
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I think stock for stock, the 63s were a hair quicker than the 55s, thanks to the 6.2's top end along with the newer 7-speed transmission shifting a little faster. (The 55s and 65s kept the older but more durable 5-speed auto since the 7-speed wasn't yet capable of handling that kind of torque.) But the 55s were way easier to mod, and like most factory forced induction engines you could get more out of it without having to do anything too crazy.


I've been in cars with both motors, and they're both beasts, just in different ways. But one thing that always seemed inaccurate was that a lot of reviewers would say that the 63s lacked torque, but that's not the case. It just didn't have the crazy torque (in terms of both peak torque and the torque curve) that the 55s had, but it was still VERY solid, as its various applications had peaks ranging from ~430 to ~480 lb-ft... definitely not what I'd consider lacking, especially when you compare it to what its direct competitors had in ANY class at those times. It was really just one motor in nearly all of Mercedes' lineup going against different motors in different segments (i.e. M3's 4.0-liter V-8, M5's 5.0-liter V-10, Lexus' 5.0-liter V-8, Audi's 4.2-liter V-8).


I have yet to sample the new 63s though, with the twin-turbos. And it's ironic, because now reviewers talk about how massive its torque curves are while saying that they miss the old 63's top end... MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!
Definitely agree

Still in terms of having a 4 door SuperCar murder..... nothing compares to the new RS6's Avants.... whoever decided were are going to dump 575hp w/ 516 ft/tq into a 4WD station wagon was utterly mental and the fact it looks like it's going to eat you and your family

I'd bet they could still outgun the Charger Hellcats up until ~150mph because of the laters soon to be VERY apparent traction issues
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:43 PM   #16
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Yeah, the fact that the manufacturer is talking about the Hellcat's drag times on slicks (which manufacturers rarely do) indicate to me that traction is going to be a problem. Not that I ever doubted it.
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Old 08-28-2014, 01:07 AM   #17
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Must be a nice and fun car until it reaches a measly 50,000 miles and the whole thing starts breaking down from interior buttons to suspension...
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:19 AM   #18
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Pretty sure I know that guy. If so, he was in my run group down at Roebling Road at a track event a few years ago. Car was fast as hell down the straights. 145 which actually isn't impressive for a car with that much power at that track, but it was impressive because he had to lift every lap on the straight when passing by the sound meter, lol. Aftermarket headers with stock mufflers and that thing sounded so damn nasty. This was when I had my S2000. He'd dust me on the main straight but I'd reel him in the rest of the lap in the twisties. Fun memories, hehe.



Also he may have mentioned that he hit an indicated 193 mph one night on a long road, not public of course.
You are indeed correct

Below is a picture of his car with a few more modifications than when you met him as well as my red one just behind him. At that point he was very close to teens at Roebling. Note the 335 rears. Car was actually totaled a couple of years ago.

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Hah, what're the chances. I remember your car as well. Was envious of them both, hehe.

Here's a photo some photog took with my car, a Z06, your car and an M3.



Pretty sure this was during the first session of the first day when a few idiots were being bad about point by's and we were all stuck daisy chaining it around for 20 minutes
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