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gdrider77 08-14-2014 11:43 PM

Mercedes E55 AMG...Fast..but not fast enough.
 
So driving to work the other day, and took my brz out, since it was nice. I was headed in around 11am, so no traffic on the highway, where i come in from. I'm cruising along and out of no where a crazy loud matte gray e55 pulls up next to me.

The passenger, kind of motions to go, and since i was in a good mood, mashed the pedal. I was not really sure what to expect, but man, that AMG is fast! We both took off and were running pretty strong, with me slowly gaining more and more ground. I even shifted a bit sloppy, as this was actually one of the only and first real cars i have encountered on the street that hung with me that long, and i was not expecting it. I was immediately gaining ground on him, but nothing spectacular, maybe a foot a second or something like that. Once i shifted into 6th, thats when i really started putting distance, and in the end i left him behind, probably a good 10 car lengths or more, but didnt really start getting distance until midway through 6.....And at that point, he was probably letting off, as we were probably at a pretty good speed.

Afterwards, he pulled up next to me...the driver was yelling, man that car is F*$k!ng fast! I said the same thing to him, we through up the deuces and we went our separate ways.

This was really the one and only time i have had room and someone to run against on the street, as i dont drive my car too much, and usually there is traffic everywhere. So even if there is a car, its usually some idiot revving next to me in bumper to bumper traffic. But man, that made me want to just drive around all day after that looking for trouble...hehe.

When i got in to the office i looked those AMGs up, man those things are nasty! Really fast sedan.

And then i woke up, what a dream.................

CSG Mike 08-14-2014 11:48 PM

If he were modded... it wouldn't have been pretty, even with the weight.

gdrider77 08-14-2014 11:50 PM

Yeah, probably not, but man, thats the thing, if that was stock, man that is a sick car, and a sedan at that! Crazy, modded those must be ridiculous! I just cant get over that it is a sedan.

Atticus808 08-15-2014 12:53 AM

I drove a c63 edition 507 (look it up). fuck is that thing ever fast. it keeps pulling and pulling.

Speed2th 08-15-2014 03:39 AM

maybe his tires were bald and had no traction for the mad torque.

Deep Six 08-15-2014 07:10 AM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRyHsrutIvI&list=UU7vMqMZ8opxBhtnQetOZ3oQ"]DadsC63 runs 11.449 @ 123.64 - YouTube[/ame]

Joakim3 08-15-2014 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 1900632)
I drove a c63 edition 507 (look it up). fuck is that thing ever fast. it keeps pulling and pulling.

Almost all the guys on the AMG forums agree the E55's (has to be euro spec though) are still faster than the E63 lol, Benz increased the liter size and lost the supercharger and thus the idiotic level of torque. Funny though is the E55 wagon is faster than the sedan due to better weight distribution lol

But yeah my dad raced an e55 AMG in the Viggen.... lets just say it wasn't pretty in anyway :sigh:

Vten 08-15-2014 09:25 AM

His may have those e55 failing ic pump common problem ... Lol

Have one in my garage :) , but yeah ... Since your car is almost 400whp and almost half of the e55 weight , it's pretty much self explainatory .... But if it's modded, I think it'll be a different story.

It's a torque monster , really hard to get any tractions , tires spins super easy :) mine has 285 pss on the rear , lightly modded ...pulley, ic pump, full exhaust :)

DeeezNuuuts83 08-17-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Joakim3 (Post 1900883)
Almost all the guys on the AMG forums agree the E55's (has to be euro spec though) are still faster than the E63 lol, Benz increased the liter size and lost the supercharger and thus the idiotic level of torque. Funny though is the E55 wagon is faster than the sedan due to better weight distribution lol

I think stock for stock, the 63s were a hair quicker than the 55s, thanks to the 6.2's top end along with the newer 7-speed transmission shifting a little faster. (The 55s and 65s kept the older but more durable 5-speed auto since the 7-speed wasn't yet capable of handling that kind of torque.) But the 55s were way easier to mod, and like most factory forced induction engines you could get more out of it without having to do anything too crazy.


I've been in cars with both motors, and they're both beasts, just in different ways. But one thing that always seemed inaccurate was that a lot of reviewers would say that the 63s lacked torque, but that's not the case. It just didn't have the crazy torque (in terms of both peak torque and the torque curve) that the 55s had, but it was still VERY solid, as its various applications had peaks ranging from ~430 to ~480 lb-ft... definitely not what I'd consider lacking, especially when you compare it to what its direct competitors had in ANY class at those times. It was really just one motor in nearly all of Mercedes' lineup going against different motors in different segments (i.e. M3's 4.0-liter V-8, M5's 5.0-liter V-10, Lexus' 5.0-liter V-8, Audi's 4.2-liter V-8).


I have yet to sample the new 63s though, with the twin-turbos. And it's ironic, because now reviewers talk about how massive its torque curves are while saying that they miss the old 63's top end... MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!

WolfpackS2k 08-27-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deep Six (Post 1900818)


Pretty sure I know that guy. If so, he was in my run group down at Roebling Road at a track event a few years ago. Car was fast as hell down the straights. 145 which actually isn't impressive for a car with that much power at that track, but it was impressive because he had to lift every lap on the straight when passing by the sound meter, lol. Aftermarket headers with stock mufflers and that thing sounded so damn nasty. This was when I had my S2000. He'd dust me on the main straight but I'd reel him in the rest of the lap in the twisties. Fun memories, hehe.

:respekt:

Also he may have mentioned that he hit an indicated 193 mph one night on a long road, not public of course.;)

yohan04 08-27-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1900573)
If he were modded... it wouldn't have been pretty, even with the weight.

They're labeled "4 door mustang cobra" for a reason -- simple pulley upgrade, exhaust and tune and you're eating Z06 for lunch.

But stock E55 aren't super quick, they trap around 113-115 IIRC.



Must be a nice long road if you're getting into 6th :clap:

WolfpackS2k 08-27-2014 03:10 PM

At the last Cars & Coffee I attended there was an E63...with an aftermarket supercharger. At first i thought it was an E55, then did a double take after noticing the fender badging that said "6.3". I didn't see the owner, but I'd guess that car was putting out at least 650 hp. :burnrubber:

DeeezNuuuts83 08-27-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1919911)
At the last Cars & Coffee I attended there was an E63...with an aftermarket supercharger. At first i thought it was an E55, then did a double take after noticing the fender badging that said "6.3". I didn't see the owner, but I'd guess that car was putting out at least 650 hp. :burnrubber:

That's ironic. At the C&C in Irvine that I went to last Saturday, there was a supercharged CLK63 AMG Black Series there. I'll post a pic later, if I can find it.

Joakim3 08-27-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yohan04 (Post 1919805)
They're labeled "4 door mustang cobra" for a reason -- simple pulley upgrade, exhaust and tune and you're eating Z06 for lunch.

But stock E55 aren't super quick, they trap around 113-115 IIRC.



Must be a nice long road if you're getting into 6th :clap:

I'd imagine the low trap speed is due to traction issues...... putting 510+ ft/tq with MC endless power band = wheel spin and then some more wheel spin


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