Cosworth FA20 Stage 1 Power Package

[FR-S Matt]

My Kraftwerks kit was $3500. Cosworth can kiss my ass, lol.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by Shady195

In for built N/A block..

I may go F/I at somepoint.. but long term I really want to just pay oodles of money to have a solid high comp N/A block built that can crank out ~300HP

Not sure if 300hhp can be done on the FA20, but I do know some more power can be brought out from a build. I prefer reliability over shear numbers. Repeatability is key.

[fang_gt86]

From an earlier and different thread:

Originally Posted by MAPerformance

Here it is in a nut shell:

Stage 1 - Upto 230hp - Exhaust, filter and calibration- looks like they are going to have multiple N/A stages. A 220hp, 225hp, and 230hp

Stage 2 - Upto 280hp - Supercharger with integrated manifold and calibration files - Coming Summer 2014

Stage 3 - Upto 380hp - Stage 2 Power Pack plus forged internals and calibration files - Coming Summer 2014

If Cosworth should release the power packages like the above speculation:

stage 1: $5.2k

stage 2: $4k+

stage 3: $5k+

We'll be looking at $15+ easily for all three stages...

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by Mad_Mike

Except the nameless header is $1500, downpipe $864, and the normal 3" catback is $1094. Granted its not the same catback, and still not a "deal".

Wow. You are right. The Nameless hardware is a total fucking rip off even without the Cosworth enamel douche bag badge and numbered hand signed douche bag plate.

Really, if anybody is paying fi prices for this level of performance, they're being foolish. Significantly-less-expensive options from other companies have the same performance or more.

[Freeman]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Wow. You are right. The Nameless hardware is a total fucking rip off even without the Cosworth enamel douche bag badge and numbered hand signed douche bag plate.

Really, if anybody is paying fi prices for this level of performance, they're being foolish. Significantly-less-expensive options from other companies have the same performance or more.

There's always someone who will do it for cheaper though.

That being said, doing the math my current exhaust set up comes out to about $3,000 USD. I'm sure I could have gotten the same sound and performance from an ebay UEL, and a generic muffler shop header back exhaust, but it somehow wouldn't be the same to me.

[tahdizzle]

5200 bucks for ~30 more crank hp?....

[SnapOv3st3r]

I'm thinking the Cosworth intake manifold setup + PTuning header/exhaust/Ecutek tune will be real nice.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by Freeman

There's always someone who will do it for cheaper though.

That being said, doing the math my current exhaust set up comes out to about $3,000 USD. I'm sure I could have gotten the same sound and performance from an ebay UEL, and a generic muffler shop header back exhaust, but it somehow wouldn't be the same to me.

An EL Borla for ~500 and 170 for a Tactrix Openport give, I believe, ~210-215, and more with e85. Maybe more. Certainly not less. Sounds better than stock too. People will do what people will do, but I reserve the right to snicker.

[FR-S Matt]

Just look at what happened to HKS USA. You rip people off on overpriced parts, you won't last.

[350matt]

Originally Posted by Shady195

In for built N/A block..

I may go F/I at somepoint.. but long term I really want to just pay oodles of money to have a solid high comp N/A block built that can crank out ~300HP

Blimey to get 300Bhp from a 2ltr you'll need to rev it to about 9500rpm....
I don't see this engine doing that on a reliable basis
unless you put most of it in the bin

[350matt]

Originally Posted by Mad_Mike

Except the nameless header is $1500, downpipe $864, and the normal 3" catback is $1094. Granted its not the same catback, and still not a "deal".

so a full nameless exhaust is $3458
a tune also gets you the ECUtek hardware so $1000 for that
plus the air filter $100 and a thermostat $100

so $4658 in total

[CSG David]

E85 puts out a lot of power but the juice requires extra fills and some mindfulness on your system needs to be kept in check. If you can swing it, a properly refined tune on 91 octane is perfect for day to day life. Add in a little 100 octane mix if you track fora safety margin. Remember, absolute numbers are nice but repeatability is key. Hell, I know you can pump a lot of power out of a very specific tune but it will overheat in one pull.

[FR-Sizzle]

So is the Cosworth catback 1.1 just the axleback of what Nameless provides on their site?

And then the 1.2 stage is that catback different than the stage 1.1? since the Nameless axeback offered by Nameless connects to the stock mid pipe where as this one looks like it is different in design.

Would the stage 1.1 use just the AB? and the stage 1.2 and 1.3 use a Nameless cat back that was developed just for Cosworth? Because the design is different if you compare the Cosworth Nameless Catback vs the Nameless Axle back w/ their mid pipe added on.

From the looks of it, I am assuming they are a different design. I assume the header is also a different design otherwise people would just buy these parts from Nameless instead. Is their any product development thread for this where we can see dynos? Or did Nameless state anywhere that the performance should be nearly the same but a little better than what they offer on their site. I mean just based on the design and looking at it, it looks like it would perform
/breathe a lot better than their Axleback/Midpipe Combo they offer that isnt part of Cosworth.

Its too bad its so expensive. I rather spend a little more and get the Greddy/Trust Limited Edition TI version Cat back that was announced recently for a couple hundred more. The Catback does look nice though and its design is my favorite of all the cat back besides the Greddy/Trust Limited Edition catback.

[Freeman]

You can't buy just the Cosworth catback from Nameless(I tried), so it's not in their site. Cosworth won't let them sell just pieces of the exhaust, you have to buy the whole package or packages.