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Old 07-31-2014, 01:02 AM   #6903
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Seriously though. I switched mine off today just to be reminded what my car used to be. I only lasted a few minutes that way haha.

Tell me about it. I turned my off while I'm waiting for my new harness to come in because my faulty voltmeter started smoking up. This car does not pull at all compared to when I had my ESC on.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:36 AM   #6904
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Tell me about it. I turned my off while I'm waiting for my new harness to come in because my faulty voltmeter started smoking up. This car does not pull at all compared to when I had my ESC on.

I have my scheduled dealer visit on Tuesday morning. Will be driving it all day without it, until 5pm when I'll finally fill with E85, then probably midnight when I put the ESC back on after the engine cools a little.

Talk about a dramatic difference in one day going from 91oct no boost to E85 ESC. It'll be like Christmas that night.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:44 AM   #6905
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Do you believe this due to e85 or just crap gas? Just a heads up, I worked at a petroleum transportation company. They get all the gas from the same rack.
Well, it can't be e85, which I've never used.

We have a supermarket chain here that has a gas station on site. The more groceries you buy, the more you save at the pump. Can be up to $2/gal in savings, so it's quite the incentive.

I've filled up there many times. Guess you get what you pay for.
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Well, it can't be e85, which I've never used.

We have a supermarket chain here that has a gas station on site. The more groceries you buy, the more you save at the pump. Can be up to $2/gal in savings, so it's quite the incentive.

I've filled up there many times. Guess you get what you pay for.
You would be surprised what happens. The gas stations are allowed to have a certain % of diesel in the gas tanks and gas in diesel tanks. Maybe one of those stations carriers started pouring diesel in the wrong tank then realized it and didn't tell anyone. They get a lot of heat when they make a mistake like that.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:56 AM   #6907
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Can we run E85 if were still on the ESC 1.0 with a stock header? There's has to be others besides just me who haven't upgraded.
I would think so. Probably just wouldnt get as much of a power gain.

sorry didnt see shivs earlier post lol
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:21 PM   #6908
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How does the Phantom ESC compare to a standard Supercharger, like the HKS kit? Is it easier on the engine, etc.? Cheaper to purchase; easier to install/uninstall?

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Old 07-31-2014, 02:03 PM   #6909
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How does the Phantom ESC compare to a standard Supercharger, like the HKS kit? Is it easier on the engine, etc.? Cheaper to purchase; easier to install/uninstall?

  • Cheaper (half price, depending on the kit)
  • Easier to install, and remove for dealer (warranty) visits (1hr)
  • Arguably easier on the engine as it only generates boost at WOT
  • Cheaper/easier tuning using OFT
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  • Cheaper (half price, depending on the kit)
  • Easier to install, and remove for dealer (warranty) visits (1hr)
  • Arguably easier on the engine as it only generates boost at WOT
  • Cheaper tuning using OFT

I can remove it in 15 mins.
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I can remove it in 15 mins.
1 hour estimate is assuming you remove every trace of the ESC and flash the ECU back to stock while drinking a beer.

In reality i only remove the controller and compressor for dealer visits which only takes 20mins. They haven't asked about the crazy battery set-up or foot switch yet.
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1 hour estimate is assuming you remove every trace of the ESC and flash the ECU back to stock while drinking a beer.



In reality i only remove the controller and compressor for dealer visits which only takes 20mins. They haven't asked about the crazy battery set-up or foot switch yet.

Yeah. I remove the compressor, controller, and batteries. 15-20 min job for me. Of course I've done it a lot.
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Yeah. I remove the compressor, controller, and batteries. 15-20 min job for me. Of course I've done it a lot.

By the time you remove the controller and the compressor, you've already unhooked the post clamps for the ringlets, so lifting the batteries and putting the original back in is trivial. That damn battery tie down though... I don't know if I'm mentally challenged and the only one who hates doing that (no deep socket wrenches for me right now), or if it is that annoying for everyone...
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By the time you remove the controller and the compressor, you've already unhooked the post clamps for the ringlets, so lifting the batteries and putting the original back in is trivial. That damn battery tie down though... I don't know if I'm mentally challenged and the only one who hates doing that (no deep socket wrenches for me right now), or if it is that annoying for everyone...
The battery tie down SUX.

A pass-through socket makes things easier.
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I don't know if I'm mentally challenged and the only one who hates doing that (no deep socket wrenches for me right now), or if it is that annoying for everyone...
It is ANNOYING! Might be the only truly aggravating part of the whole install.
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By the time you remove the controller and the compressor, you've already unhooked the post clamps for the ringlets, so lifting the batteries and putting the original back in is trivial. That damn battery tie down though... I don't know if I'm mentally challenged and the only one who hates doing that (no deep socket wrenches for me right now), or if it is that annoying for everyone...
I agree it was a pain in the butt until I got my passthrough wrenches. Now its a joke. On a side note, we are over 1300 views on the install video. So either people are really interested in the install video or they are really interested in the project. Maybe I need to make a drive video.
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