Subaru BRZ Japanese Market Deliveries Pushed to Next Year

[Draco-REX]

If I have to wait a month or so more, that's acceptable. But if US deliveries are delayed until January also (highly unlikely since they're building BRZs as we type) then I'll cancel my order. I might as well get something fun for now and wait for the upgraded models later, or save more for an 818 build.

[jakoye]

Originally Posted by LivingLegend

From what I heard its the Chevy Code 130R . "Both are small and fuel efficient, though the Code 130R is also somewhat sporty thanks to its turbocharged engine, optional six-speed manual and rear-wheel drive layout."

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...roit-auto-show



Reminds me of a 1 series with just a different front end.

That is one weird-lookin' car.

Kinda looks like a smushed Charger or somethin'.

[Subaruwrxfan]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

This could actually work out better for me if I have to wait until, say, July. That's when my lease is up and I can save a little more $$ for a down payment by then.

Yeah, I'm fine with that as well. As long as I have the car to enjoy it for a decent amount of the summer, I'm fine. Gives me time to save more for a bigger downpayment.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by jakoye

That is one weird-lookin' car.

Kinda looks like a smushed Charger or somethin'.

I thought of it more like a Camaro's punk as* brother.

[Tbxgz]

Originally Posted by LivingLegend

From what I heard its the Chevy Code 130R . "Both are small and fuel efficient, though the Code 130R is also somewhat sporty thanks to its turbocharged engine, optional six-speed manual and rear-wheel drive layout."

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...roit-auto-show



Reminds me of a 1 series with just a different front end.

I saw this in person at the DC auto show. It looks like a cartoon character.
Over styled IMHO.

[Subaruwrxfan]

Originally Posted by Tbxgz

I saw this in person at the DC auto show. It looks like a cartoon character.
Over styled IMHO.

It's a concept car, I'm sure it's proportions will get redone so that it has the same shape as a baby Camaro, just with a different front end.

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Subaruwrxfan

If they are delaying japan orders, which are their home market, I think you can bank on the rest of the world getting delayed, maybe even more than Japan. I'm willing to bet that those dealer allotments will change for the U.S. There is no way that Subaru is gonna allow any dealer stock anywhere if they can't even fill new preorders in japan until January.

I'm not trying to be a debbie downer, but I'm preparing for a delay. Not large, but I'm #2 on the list at my dealer that has 7 coming in this year (as of right now), and I'm now hoping to get my car by the end of June because of this news.

You don't understand how it all works then. They've been producing cars already for the worldwide launch. Many of those cars are already on boats. If you're number 2, you'll likely be getting your car in late may/early june. Those cars are already under way. Most smaller dealers that are listed as getting 6-7 cars will get like 2 to 3 at a time. Those will then get purchased, or the pre-orderers will flake, and someone else will buy the car.

What this article means is that Japan is sold out, and has been. They tried to accommodate more than they had already allotted, but they cannot. So those pre-orders over their already allotted amount need to wait until 2013 while they fulfill the other commitments they've made. The US/AUS/EMEA markets will all get the cars they've been assigned, but this article means don't expect to see cars sitting on the lot.

[OMNOM]

Originally Posted by denkigrve

Go ask any of the younger generation in Tokyo about saving money. They save it only to buy the next new trend. I was just there in November. If you compare Hong Kong to Japan it's very different. Everyone in Hong Kong works, saves, and then retires. Many of the younger generation Japanese are just working and spending.

My best friend lives in Hong Kong half the year and travels to Japan 4 times a year. He's 100% Chinese. This is all from him educating me on our last trip.

American consumerism may have a heavier influence on their younger generation now, but the overall trends that you claimed for each nation is still backwards. Japan is still a heavier saving country than the US. Not only that but the reason for Japan's hike in consumerism is largely due to American influence.

[Subaruwrxfan]

Originally Posted by denkigrve

You don't understand how it all works then. They've been producing cars already for the worldwide launch. Many of those cars are already on boats. If you're number 2, you'll likely be getting your car in late may/early june. Those cars are already under way. Most smaller dealers that are listed as getting 6-7 cars will get like 2 to 3 at a time. Those will then get purchased, or the pre-orderers will flake, and someone else will buy the car.

What this article means is that Japan is sold out, and has been. They tried to accommodate more than they had already allotted, but they cannot. So those pre-orders over their already allotted amount need to wait until 2013 while they fulfill the other commitments they've made. The US/AUS/EMEA markets will all get the cars they've been assigned, but this article means don't expect to see cars sitting on the lot.

That makes sense as long as they don't do a total re-allotment to everyone to try and even everything out. Yeah sure I ordered a Limited in WRB, but they have plenty of them sitting around, and they haven't given me a VIN yet, so they can take my car and give it to someone else if they need to and assign me another WRB Limited at a later date. Hopefully the U.S. cars won't get taken away since they're left hand drive, but who knows.

[andcas7]

We and Toyobaru better hope none of their boats sink, like it happened to Mazda not long ago... that would really suck.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...n-snafu-at-sea

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by OMNOM

American consumerism may have a heavier influence on their younger generation now, but the overall trends that you claimed for each nation is still backwards. Japan is still a heavier saving country than the US. Not only that but the reason for Japan's hike in consumerism is largely due to American influence.

Never said it wasn't, and I totally agree. This is getting way off topic now though. Back to discussing how awesome this car is, and that Japan the demand is so high you can't get one now until 2013.

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Subaruwrxfan

That makes sense as long as they don't do a total re-allotment to everyone to try and even everything out. Yeah sure I ordered a Limited in WRB, but they have plenty of them sitting around, and they haven't given me a VIN yet, so they can take my car and give it to someone else if they need to and assign me another WRB Limited at a later date. Hopefully the U.S. cars won't get taken away since they're left hand drive, but who knows.

That's the big difference is the LHD cars. They can't repurpose those for Japan. It's makes more financial sense to just push out the over-sold orders to 2013.

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by Subaruwrxfan

Hopefully the U.S. cars won't get taken away since they're left hand drive, but who knows.

Bingo. If your car physically exists right now in some distribution centre or on a boat, they sure aren't going to redo the steering, pedals, interior, turn around and sell it in Japan ;-)

It is a nice indicator the car has gone down well in Japan, but surely all the early adopters here will be catered for.

[Subaruwrxfan]

Originally Posted by Capt Canuck

Bingo. If your car physically exists right now in some distribution centre or on a boat, they sure aren't going to redo the steering, pedals, interior, turn around and sell it in Japan ;-)

It is a nice indicator the car has gone down well in Japan, but surely all the early adopters here will be catered for.

But if our cars have no VIN numbers, there's a good possibility that they haven't built ours yet. My worry is that they will push our scheduled build dates back in order to build more JDM cars.