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06-30-2014, 02:46 PM
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So how hard is it to do an LS1 swap
Like the title says, realistically how much harder is it/more expensive is it going to be to go that way over a turbo with an engine costing around 3-3500. What other modifications will I need to do (ex. rear diff) Just curious...
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06-30-2014, 03:03 PM
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I suggest doing a search to gather more information. This has been discussed a few times on the forum It's definitely going to be more expensive then a turbo upgrade Nick C.
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06-30-2014, 03:04 PM
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Are you an automotive technician? Do you have a shop? How are you with fabricating? Wiring?
To my knowledge there aren't any LS swap kits yet. (dont quote me on that) This means you would be responsible for creating everything. I'm currently working on an S-chassis LS swap and there are drop-in kits/s-chassis to chevy wiring everywhere. Its going to cost me around $3000 for a "junkyard build". With out any wiring/mounts/custom oil pans/drive shafts on the market yet. You are looking at a lot more than that plus custom fab. Get a hold of one of the Techs at a formula drift competition and ask them. They are FULL of knowledge and love talking cars. If you must have more power just supercharge the FA20. 240 HP with an innovate supercharger for less than $3000 and close to ZERO custom fabrication sounds great to me.
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Weapons grade made a swap kit. I think it was runing around 15k$ (don't quote me) just for the kit. No cutting/welding, labor, engine, or trans. I'm not sure about the standalone either.
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06-30-2014, 03:54 PM
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OP Also and I have no idea how easy or hard to swap but you can get a really low miles Coyote (2011+ mustang) engine for under 3 grand if you get it out of a F-150, the only thing to change it back to the mustang motor is the intake cams. There's a slight compression difference but not enough to warranty the price difference. source: friend is in the middle of trading out his fully built and kenne belle 4.6L for a 5.0 motor in his track car.
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06-30-2014, 05:02 PM
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With a nice bolt on kit with all the needed accessories (cooling, ac/heater, fuel, wiring/electrical, headers, exh, driveshaft, making steering linkage and abs compatible if needed, ecu, etc) needed ($8k), LS3 crate engine ($6k), brand new tranny that fits perfectly (Magnum XL) with clutch and flywheel ($4k)....$18k for a brand new engine/tranny setup..give or take a few thousand for anything missing or the unexpected that may come up..so round up maybe an extra $2k..giving you $20k for all parts. Labor, do it yourself (which should be pretty easy since it's bolt-on and no welding/fabbing or engine block/tranny rebuilding experience needed)..or have a shop do it for $5k.
So for a proper, super nice and clean, brand new swap...$20k DiY ...or $25k if a shop does it. Imo, and for the budget conscious, it is def not worth it to do it to a relatively new FRS/BRZ (it would be $28k for the car and $25k for the swap...bringing you to the same cost as a brand new corvette at $53k and other great cars in that range...not to mention, those cars will be made for the LS(or whatever else engine it came with) in terms of stronger chassis, bigger wheels/tires with suspension specifically made for that chassis and powerful engine) ....but totally worth it down the road instead of buying a new car. Maybe do it 5-15 years down the road, when the FA engine gets old, past 100k miles and/or blows up. . Last edited by fooddude; 06-30-2014 at 05:13 PM. |
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I'm pretty sure its a direct fit
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All you need is a parking spot, a hammer and about 30 minutes...
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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10401
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61862 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53534 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45827
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OMG, the OP said LS1, and then you post up 2 threads about LS2... Now there's gonna be a "How hard is it to do an LS2 Swap" thread |
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I read on jalopnek that the LQ9 and LS7 are much easier conversion.
Also, on pinterest it says you can use factory ECU |
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LS2/LS>LS1/LS 1x2>1x1 2>1 qed
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