FR-S vs 370Z

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by fatoni

is it really that hard for you to compare things?

Sure I can compare them
370z is much faster all around
Frs is a couple thousand less and has 133 less hp.
The frs would need to weigh 1800 pounds to have similar performance
The Z has heritage and has an iconic history
The z's big brother is the GTR
The frs big brother is what the xb?

There's your request granted

[Coheed]

I drove the 370z recently. The car feels solid, handles well, stops really well with great pedal feel, and sounds incredible! The car has plenty of power and feels really quick for 330hp.

The reason I picked the BRZ over the 370z was because of the back seat. Nissan needs the silvia back.

There are no real problems with the 370z that I can see other than that and the price. To get a loaded z you will spend around 40k.

The FA20 is not a very good engine. Hate me for saying it. But this engine is anemic, sounds like a tractor, mine has had hiccups starting and holding a steady idle at random. And the fuel pump can go to hell. Not sure why Subaru thinks its ok to be wailing the way it does on some days. Really, that's my only gripe with my BRZ. It just needs more refinement from the engine. More power would definitely not hurt. I live at high elevation and the power is disappointing. It redeems itself every time I get sideways in the rain though.

The transmission seems very much like all the other Aisin transmissions I have experienced. 2nd gear hates high rpm shifting, is notchy when cold etc. Transmission should be smooth with 10k miles on it.

I'll add one more thing... The 370Z has terrible rear visibility. Atrocious. That's my one big gripe about it from my limited experience.

[Twin4Life]

Originally Posted by Coheed

I drove the 370z recently. The car feels solid, handles well, stops really well with great pedal feel, and sounds incredible! The car has plenty of power and feels really quick for 330hp.

The reason I picked the BRZ over the 370z was because of the back seat. Nissan needs the silvia back.

There are no real problems with the 370z that I can see other than that and the price. To get a loaded z you will spend around 40k.

The FA20 is not a very good engine. Hate me for saying it. But this engine is anemic, sounds like a tractor, mine has had hiccups starting and holding a steady idle at random. And the fuel pump can go to hell. Not sure why Subaru thinks its ok to be wailing the way it does on some days. Really, that's my only gripe with my BRZ. It just needs more refinement from the engine. More power would definitely not hurt. I live at high elevation and the power is disappointing. It redeems itself every time I get sideways in the rain though.

The transmission seems very much like all the other Aisin transmissions I have experienced. 2nd gear hates high rpm shifting, is notchy when cold etc. Transmission should be smooth with 10k miles on it.

I'll add one more thing... The 370Z has terrible rear visibility. Atrocious. That's my one big gripe about it from my limited experience.

What rear visibility? LOL. I swear, if any of you ever saw me driving my Z around town youd think Im racing everyone. Its sorta true because I was so focused at being the first to the light JUST to put distance between myself and traffic cuz you cannot see a DAMN thing out the windows.

[Davey]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

C&D specifically said upgrading the pads and fluid didn't fix the problem. And I find that ridiculous, given the huge size of the front rotors (14") and relatively average weight of the car.


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That's where the ducting comes in. There is really no airflow to the brakes whatsoever.

The fact is, the 370Z brakes from the sport package with the included "street" pads are FANTASTIC in daily driving, unless your daily driving involves repeated, back-to-back stops from over 100 mph.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by Twin4Life

What rear visibility? LOL. I swear, if any of you ever saw me driving my Z around town youd think Im racing everyone. Its sorta true because I was so focused at being the first to the light JUST to put distance between myself and traffic cuz you cannot see a DAMN thing out the windows.

Lol.. I'll remember that next time I see a Z race by me...
Rearward visibility is always a challenge in most sports cars..
That's why they are made to go fast so you can stay up front and not worry about what's behind you..

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

C&D specifically said upgrading the pads and fluid didn't fix the problem. And I find that ridiculous, given the huge size of the front rotors (14") and relatively average weight of the car.


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Yeah I thought originally it was the combination of the weight + horsepower, but the Mustang GT is even heavier and has significantly more HP than the 370z, and the brakes are fine on that car.

Maybe C&D was right about the lack of airflow in the 370z's design.

Originally Posted by The Stig

Sure I can compare them
370z is much faster all around
Frs is a couple thousand less and has 133 less hp.
The frs would need to weigh 1800 pounds to have similar performance
The Z has heritage and has an iconic history
The z's big brother is the GTR
The frs big brother is what the xb?

There's your request granted

Haha you're really grasping at straws there with the "heritage and iconic history" and "its big brother is the GTR" stuff.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Yeah I thought originally it was the combination of the weight + horsepower, but the Mustang GT is even heavier and has significantly more HP than the 370z, and the brakes are fine on that car.

Maybe C&D was right about the lack of airflow in the 370z's design.



Haha you're really grasping at straws there with the "heritage and iconic history" and "its big brother is the GTR" stuff.

If he can claim the GT-R as the Z's big brother, can the Twins claim the LFA as a second cousin?

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

If he can claim the GT-R as the Z's big brother, can the Twins claim the LFA as a second cousin?

LOL older brother of the GT86? Cousin to the Twins?

[MokSpeed]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

If he can claim the GT-R as the Z's big brother, can the Twins claim the LFA as a second cousin?

Supra would be his way older brother?

[Twin4Life]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Yeah I thought originally it was the combination of the weight + horsepower, but the Mustang GT is even heavier and has significantly more HP than the 370z, and the brakes are fine on that car.

Maybe C&D was right about the lack of airflow in the 370z's design.



Haha you're really grasping at straws there with the "heritage and iconic history" and "its big brother is the GTR" stuff.

Im gonna go out on a limb here, but I have a feeling the entry speed was higher on the Z, that with shitty pads and poor airflow assisted in the wreck. Anyone? lol

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

If he can claim the GT-R as the Z's big brother, can the Twins claim the LFA as a second cousin?

Since its under the lexus line it's only a half brother.

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Yeah I thought originally it was the combination of the weight + horsepower, but the Mustang GT is even heavier and has significantly more HP than the 370z, and the brakes are fine on that car.

Maybe C&D was right about the lack of airflow in the 370z's



Haha you're really grasping at straws there with the "heritage and iconic history" and "its big brother is the GTR" stuff.

Seriously? Do you know anything about the Z history?
I know the Scion history is so stellar with all the 105hp boxes they make.

[schlomo]

Originally Posted by The Stig

Seriously? Do you know anything about the Z history?
I know the Scion history is so stellar with all the 105hp boxes they make.

Ugh. Most Z drivers aren't like this one ^

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by The Stig

Seriously? Do you know anything about the Z history?
I know the Scion history is so stellar with all the 105hp boxes they make.

Who gives a crap?

A car should be judged on its merits, not how good other cars from the same manufacturer have been in the past.