CSG Mike's observations on dampers/coilovers

[RehabJeff86]

Originally Posted by RiskyTrousers

Haha, I didn't know LCAs where rated according to skill level! Nice jab.

Yes absolutely, a highly skilled driver can easily bend and destroy a weak LCA, both front and rear


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[CSG Mike]

SPC has a long track record of parts failing on track. I've seen many failures in *person* on track. I will never recommend a SPC part to be used unless it is a last resort, or a piece that cannot possibly fail (camber bolt).

[RiskyTrousers]

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

Yes absolutely, a highly skilled driver can easily bend and destroy a weak LCA, both front and rear


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And with that I'm out.






Sorry for the high jack!

[CSG Mike]

This is from one of our sponsored drivers' cars.

Failed SPC part on the right, SPL on the left



SPC on top, SPL on bottom.

[gramicci101]

So for a mild drop, say RCE Yellows, with a mild alignment for mostly DD with the very occasional auto-x, what do you recommend for rear camber? SPLs and Whitelines etc... are gorgeous and stout, but they're also a huge chunk of money.

I ask because FT-86SF has an RCE Yellow package deal with SPC camber bolts and RLCAs, but you have the option to upgrade to other RLCAs for additional money. And I really don't think my usage level justifies a $500 billet aluminum control arm.

[was385]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

So for a mild drop, say RCE Yellows, with a mild alignment for mostly DD with the very occasional auto-x, what do you recommend for rear camber? SPLs and Whitelines etc... are gorgeous and stout, but they're also a huge chunk of money.

I ask because FT-86SF has an RCE Yellow package deal with SPC camber bolts and RLCAs, but you have the option to upgrade to other RLCAs for additional money. And I really don't think my usage level justifies a $500 billet aluminum control arm.

Fr just RCE yellows I would say stock. You'll be right around 2 degrees of negative camber which is perfectly fine for street and autox.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by was385

Fr just RCE yellows I would say stock. You'll be right around 2 degrees of negative camber which is perfectly fine for street and autox.

I saw RCE recommending -1.75 or so in the rear, with just a hint of toe. -2 is close enough to -1.75, I guess.

Do you know how much adjustability there is with the OEM system? I'd prefer not to have -1.8 on one side and -2.1 on the other due to slack in the OEM tolerances.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

So for a mild drop, say RCE Yellows, with a mild alignment for mostly DD with the very occasional auto-x, what do you recommend for rear camber? SPLs and Whitelines etc... are gorgeous and stout, but they're also a huge chunk of money.

I ask because FT-86SF has an RCE Yellow package deal with SPC camber bolts and RLCAs, but you have the option to upgrade to other RLCAs for additional money. And I really don't think my usage level justifies a $500 billet aluminum control arm.

The SPC part pictured above broke on a dip.

[M1K3]

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

One question is - what SPC LCA was on Asabos car? Same as this below?

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Aasbo is running the new version SPC LCA for the FRS/BRZ Here. The image your post had both old and new version. I run the new SPC LCA and think they are good for the street, but I totally agree with CSG Mike and think that the SPL stuff is the best stuff out there.

[RehabJeff86]

Originally Posted by M1K3

Aasbo is running the new version SPC LCA for the FRS/BRZ Here. The image your post had both old and new version. I run the new SPC LCA and think they are good for the street, but I totally agree with CSG Mike and think that the SPL stuff is the best stuff out there.

Nonetheless, it is very impressive that SPC LCA is able to match with Asobo driving for the entire season, this says a lot.


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[fooddude]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

This is from one of our sponsored drivers' cars.

Failed SPC part on the right, SPL on the left



SPC on top, SPL on bottom.

Those SPL parts look serious. Like high quality baja/off-road race truck parts

[was385]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

I saw RCE recommending -1.75 or so in the rear, with just a hint of toe. -2 is close enough to -1.75, I guess.

Do you know how much adjustability there is with the OEM system? I'd prefer not to have -1.8 on one side and -2.1 on the other due to slack in the OEM tolerances.

There's no rear camber adjustment in the oem system unfortunately. I'm about .2 degrees off from left to right, which more than likely makes almost no difference in my times. Bottom line for me is that it just wasn't worth the $500 it would have cost to get a quality LCA.

[was385]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

SPC has a long track record of parts failing on track. I've seen many failures in *person* on track. I will never recommend a SPC part to be used unless it is a last resort, or a piece that cannot possibly fail (camber bolt).

I originally bought spc camber bolts and was having the performance shop around me throw them on while doing an alignment. When I made the appt, the guy told me to go out and get the OEM crash bolts to bring with me because they won't touch spc camber bolts anymore due to seeing them fail so often.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by was385

I originally bought spc camber bolts and was having the performance shop around me throw them on while doing an alignment. When I made the appt, the guy told me to go out and get the OEM crash bolts to bring with me because they won't touch spc camber bolts anymore due to seeing them fail so often.

Do they touch whiteline bolts? Cuz they are the same part and people seem to run them no problem