Can't decide (new to car mods) turbo or supercharge

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

7. You have an automatic transmission?
- Supercharger

Why?

[Calum]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Why?

The rpm range that they operate at during normal driving. Unless you use a very small turbo you'll be a long way from boost when you try to get on it.

[FR-S Matt]

Or you can just sell your car and buy a 5.0 if you want a good V8.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Calum

The rpm range that they operate at during normal driving. Unless you use a very small turbo you'll be a long way from boost when you try to get on it.

Changing gears is extremely fast, only morons try to jump on it way below the boost threshold, it ain't a V8 so don't drive it like one?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

Questions to help determine what you might want.

1. Do you daily drive the car and use to big V8 torque and response?
- Turbo
2. Do you plan on going to the drag or track with your setup?
- Turbo
3. Are you worried about smog and being CARB legal?
- He is Canadian, Turbo
4. Do you want to continue building the power up in large steps, with basic mod upgrades?
- Turbo
5. Do you want to be able to resell your vehicle easily?
- Turbo, sold my turbo BRZ in 4 days
6. You do not mind being loud, therefore having less back pressure to make power?
- Turbo
7. You have an automatic transmission?
- He doesn't, still Turbo

fixt.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by glamcem

to the OP, you can always @King Tut if you want to learn what the linear torque is all about

He isn't ready for that conversation yet. He said he wants 300 torques, but I didn't ask him how linear he wants his horsepower curve, haha.

[AJPG]

If you use your AT in manual and sport mode there should be no issue with turbo it!
If use it full auto with default mode then (depending on the turbo you chose) lag could be an issue. But if you want to have some fun get a passenger, centrifugal sc and default mode, then hit the throttle (WOT) and you have near max boost as soon as the car change gears, then and only then you would see the thing people talk about instant boost
You could also see that if you let the car at 5k with out use of throttle (like engine braking) follow with WOT, be careful on turns and have tons of fun!

[AJPG]

But please don't compare sc (positive pressure or centrifugal) with turbos, is not fair... This is my second sc car, all others turbo from oem to custom made and both are the slowest of all.
As a side note this is the only one I think would make it to 100k before engine repair, is not due to taking care of the car, more that could not rise boost if found some one faster.
Also temps under the hood are better than expected (live in the tropic) oil range 200-220f, coolant 194-210f, sc oil 195f.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Changing gears is extremely fast, only morons try to jump on it way below the boost threshold, it ain't a V8 so don't drive it like one?

Meh, I haven't driven a flappy paddle gear box, I have no idea how the transmission will respond when you tell it to change gears. BUT, the automatics do keep the rpms very low.

[J_kennington]

Originally Posted by Calum

Meh, I haven't driven a flappy paddle gear box, I have no idea how the transmission will respond when you tell it to change gears. BUT, the automatics do keep the rpms very low.

Car responds near instantly to manual downshift inputs. And the only time it keeps the rpms low...is in full auto with no sport mode. Even full auto with sport mode engaged, it will stay in the powerband for quite awhile before shifting up.

But, none of that matters. OP has a manual...

[D K]

If you want to make crazy dyno numbers - Turbocharger

If you want to drive only one lap at a time - Turbocharger

If you want to melt everything in your engine bay - Turbocharger

If you want to make reliable, usable power - Supercharger

If you want to track all day, many sessions - Supercharger

If you want engine that feels like stock, but much moar powerful - Supercharger

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by D K

If you want to make crazy dyno numbers - Turbocharger

If you want to drive only one lap at a time - Turbocharger

If you want to melt everything in your engine bay - Visconti/Accelerated

If you want to make reliable, usable power - Turbocharger

If you want to track all day, many sessions - Turbocharger

If you want engine that feels like stock, with not much torque, but slightly moar powerful - Supercharger

fixt again.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by King Tut

fixt again.

How often did you track your TCed BRZ? Have you datalogged?
This is a serious question because in my previous turbo cars (OEM turbo) heatsoak and transient response were my problems (inconsistent power delivery too since turbos are more temperamental) ...I am just curious I just want to know what kind of temps and experience people have since I don't see many people share their opinions on tracked TCed BRZ/FRS

I am really curious how a big turbo in the engine bay is not causing any heat issues.. Do people really push their cars at the track?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by glamcem

How often did you track your TCed BRZ? Have you datalogged?
This is a serious question because in my previous turbo cars (OEM turbo) heatsoak and transient response were my problems (inconsistent power delivery too since turbos are more temperamental) ...I am just curious I just want to know what kind of temps and experience people have since I don't see many people share their opinions on tracked TCed BRZ/FRS

I am really curious how a big turbo in the engine bay is not causing any heat issues.. Do people really push their cars at the track?

I didn't track mine at all, but I am 100% confident that I would have worked on it till it did five 20 minute sessions a day no problem. Is a supercharger the easier solution, yes. Is a C5 Z06 an even easier solution, yes.