Paint issue, not rail rust.

[Cyau]

I actually been having paint issue for a while now.

Basically looks like there are bubbles between the clear coat and the actual paint, and this is through out my car size ranges from 0.5cm to 2cm diameter.

Toyota (actual Toyota) field rep documented, but done nothing. Told me if gets worse in the future then bring it in again....

I'll get some pics later, if anyone else have similar problems..

[suaveflooder]

Well, this sucks. Thankfully, I don't have the issue, but I'll keep my eyes out for it.

Interesting thing is that my 07 civic is getting a near full repaint for paint issues as we speak. She's in the shop for 3 weeks for the repaint. Hondas had issues with the primer they used on the hood and front fenders as well as the roof and trunk clear not being thick enough.

If anything is to became of this, it won't be any time soon. KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS!!! if you are paying for this fix out of pocket. I know that if we had gotten this fixed previously, you can get reimbursed!

[Kuros]

I know this is a fairly old thread, but I would like to add that I have had my brand new 2014 Raven FRS for about 4 weeks now and I am already seeing bubbling in the clear coat all over the car. Hood (already chipped completely off in 1 spot) roof, trunk, quarters and bumper.

Taking to dealer hopefully today.
I did send a complaint to Scion USA and was basically told "tough"

[GotBRZ1691]

I park under a tree and birds terd on my car like crazy! I will check this after work.

My thoughts are it will be worth the cost of a car cover to avoid this issue.

My car is silver, so I could have easily over looked this.

My car has 4,600 miles on it, bought it new, have owned it for almost 2 months.

[Boxer486]

Maybe I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing but these pics all look like rock chips and environmental damage to me. Not paint self destructing.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Boxer486

Maybe I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing but these pics all look like rock chips and environmental damage to me. Not paint self destructing.

The first page pictures are mostly from the roof, I'll post mine after I wash.

If it was an impact of enough magnitude to chip the paint I'd expect some deformation of the sheet metal to go with it.

Sure I'll buy in on 'environmental damage' but that's over half the point of paint anyway isn't it? To protect the car from the environment.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

The first page pictures are mostly from the roof, I'll post mine after I wash.

If it was an impact of enough magnitude to chip the paint I'd expect some deformation of the sheet metal to go with it.

Sure I'll buy in on 'environmental damage' but that's over half the point of paint anyway isn't it? To protect the car from the environment.

Not necessarily. You can chip paint without damaging plastic or metal beneath it. It's not made of metal or plastic after all. Though being on the roof is unusual but I've seen other weird stuff like black spots on a roof digging into paint.


Paint is there to protect from corrosion, not necessarily erosion. With modern water soluble paints, hard to say. Paint seems more about compliance with federal environmental mandates than protection these days. We do have cheap paint though, certainly wouldn't pass muster with Lexus.


I'd seriously recommend anyone getting a new twin letting it cure in your garage a week or two and applying a good sealant glaze like Menzerna after a quality detail or paint correction. It's not clear bra but I think it helps cheap paint like ours a bit when it's rather fresh and brittle.

[frs10]

lol wait until you guys see the rock chips on the front of the car...

i've pretty much given up on that...

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by frs10

lol wait until you guys see the rock chips on the front of the car...

i've pretty much given up on that...

Mine has been pretty good and CA doesn't have a good reputation for road cleanliness.


the only one that went through the paint also chipped the plastic, no sheet of film was going to stop it.

[Jertronic]

On my hood I've got about 4 small dots where just the clear coat is missing. Almost looks like it could be from road debris or gravel. I just finished sealing and then wax on top of sealant. Gonna watch it very closely. Man I wish I have protected my paint at the beginning of winter. Spots are so small you can't notice them until you put face 12 inches from hood surface. Your defects look larger in size than what I have


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[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

the only one that went through the paint also chipped the plastic, no sheet of film was going to stop it.

You'd be surprised what a sheet of certain types of plastic can stop.

[pkolanko]

Hey guys. I have noticed the same thing on my 2014 WRB BRZ. I have two or three little exposed areas on the roof and trunk. Today, I clay bar the entire car and I saw them. This seems to be an issue with the vehicle and not "environmental" because it's on areas where damage usually won't occur. I am gonna call the local subaru dealer and see what they say.

[unsurety]

I've begun to notice this on my paint too. Looks like the paint is bubbling up underneath, like rust is eating away at it. Very, very small spots. But I've noticed a few already

Car is kept in a garage daily.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by pkolanko

Hey guys. I have noticed the same thing on my 2014 WRB BRZ. I have two or three little exposed areas on the roof and trunk. Today, I clay bar the entire car and I saw them. This seems to be an issue with the vehicle and not "environmental" because it's on areas where damage usually won't occur. I am gonna call the local subaru dealer and see what they say.

Originally Posted by unsurety

I've begun to notice this on my paint too. Looks like the paint is bubbling up underneath, like rust is eating away at it. Very, very small spots. But I've noticed a few already

Car is kept in a garage daily.

Wow, no good! What you guys seem to be describing is akin to premature cracking in the clear coat like you'd get in a 10 year old car that is parked outside under the sun and poorly maintained. Waaay too early for this to be happening if that's what it is.


Hope you guys get taken care of. You guys might have to start a poll or track how big this issue is. Seems like it could be a legit problem with QC.