Tein Street Advance BRZ/GT-86/FR-S Coilovers Released in Japan - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

xwd · 04-07-2012, 08:55 PM

I've been there and done that with he crappy JDM brands and coilovers (Tanabe) but I would say Tein isn't quite in that category. They make a whole range of stuff and as usual you get what you pay for and if my memory serves me you can get them rebuilt in the US. I will probably go for something non-JDM but I have seen plenty of folks be successful using Teins including winning ST autox national championships.

I'm just happy folks will have so many choices out of the gate.

SPCorBUST · 04-08-2012, 04:10 AM

didn't like the tein's when i had them. switched to bc's and never looked back - sooo much better.

Blaster · 04-08-2012, 05:42 AM

Ride height adjusted through spring seat, dislike. Give me fully threaded shock bodies please.

fatoni · 04-08-2012, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPCorBUST

didn't like the tein's when i had them. switched to bc's and never looked back - sooo much better.

those are just companies. you arent mentioning products so i dont think anybody knows what you are talking about. if i said kia is sooo much better than toyota, i sound stupid. unless i mention that im comparing the optima to a yaris. thats kinda like what youre doing.

Alfie · 04-08-2012, 09:37 PM

"Ya know the Germans make good stuff" LOL, anyone thinking about Eibach??

...as for spring rates, I remember seeing in a video in Japan,
they were running 8K in front and 6K in the rear which was ironic (86 hohoho)

fatoni · 04-08-2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfie

"Ya know the Germans make good stuff" LOL, anyone thinking about Eibach??

...as for spring rates, I remember seeing in a video in Japan,
they were running 8K in front and 6K in the rear which was ironic (86 hohoho)

thats the exact opposite of ironic

Alfie · 04-08-2012, 11:58 PM

Tein Street Advance BRZ/GT-86/FR-S Coilovers Released in Japan

86design · 04-09-2012, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burt

I had a set of Tein SS coilovers on my Integra and they started leaking after less than 3k miles. Keep in mind the car was not slammed and streets in my area are not bad. Plus their coilovers are heavy. I would not buy again.

i agree....TEIN isn't what they use to be...there's so many other (sad to say this) better companies that have good prices and perform a little better..

i'm going with Cusco...already placed the order

Racecomp Engineering · 04-09-2012, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni

thats the exact opposite of ironic

it's also not a very good idea from a technical standpoint IMO.

- drew

Calum · 04-09-2012, 11:15 AM

So, Drew. Thumbs up or down for the spring rates being the same front to back?

Racecomp Engineering · 04-09-2012, 12:30 PM

It's a good starting point for a coilover for this car. For some applications, set-ups, drivers, etc. many will want a a little more in the rear. For lowering springs which are working with lower overall rates, a little more in the rear may also be a good idea.

At the least I would try not to do softer in the rear on this car.

- drew

uspspro · 04-09-2012, 12:38 PM

Looks like HKS is using 6kg front / 4kg rear on their "street" setup and 8kg front / 6kg rear on their "track" setup

http://www.hks-86.com/suspension.htm

just another data point.

Racecomp Engineering · 04-09-2012, 02:31 PM

nm...

Dave-ROR · 04-09-2012, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

A lot of the JDM and taiwanese companies used spring rates that were just plain wrong for GR Impreza and EVO 8/9/X especially so I don't really put much thought into what they do. Every good custom coilover set-up went a different route and I can't fully explain why the JDM companies were so mixed up.

- drew

Same with Hondas. The JDM rates work if you do a bunch of other stuff with Hondas (ie, run wide front tires and narrow rear, agressive alignments, etc).

I'd rather just setup the suspension better and then use the rest to fine tune as needed, not as a requirement.

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Alfie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Sheeveek Si Location: the GTA Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"Ya know the Germans make good stuff" LOL, anyone thinking about Eibach?? ...as for spring rates, I remember seeing in a video in Japan, they were running 8K in front and 6K in the rear which was ironic (86 hohoho) __________________ ____"In essence they're identical, and identically excellent." Ollie Marriage TOP GEAR____

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04-07-2012, 08:55 PM	#43
xwd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 2,667 Thanks: 123 Thanked 861 Times in 552 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've been there and done that with he crappy JDM brands and coilovers (Tanabe) but I would say Tein isn't quite in that category. They make a whole range of stuff and as usual you get what you pay for and if my memory serves me you can get them rebuilt in the US. I will probably go for something non-JDM but I have seen plenty of folks be successful using Teins including winning ST autox national championships. I'm just happy folks will have so many choices out of the gate.

04-08-2012, 05:42 AM	#45
Blaster Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2007 VW GTI Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Ride height adjusted through spring seat, dislike. Give me fully threaded shock bodies please.

04-09-2012, 11:15 AM	#52
Calum That Guy Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2013 asphalt FRS MT Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 4,865 Thanks: 5,058 Thanked 2,868 Times in 1,499 Posts Mentioned: 82 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	So, Drew. Thumbs up or down for the spring rates being the same front to back?

04-09-2012, 12:30 PM	#53
Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,517 Thanks: 3,541 Thanked 7,412 Times in 3,032 Posts Mentioned: 310 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	It's a good starting point for a coilover for this car. For some applications, set-ups, drivers, etc. many will want a a little more in the rear. For lowering springs which are working with lower overall rates, a little more in the rear may also be a good idea. At the least I would try not to do softer in the rear on this car. - drew

04-09-2012, 12:38 PM	#54
uspspro Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ, MR-S 3.5L V6 swap (sold) Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 602 Thanks: 28 Thanked 188 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Looks like HKS is using 6kg front / 4kg rear on their "street" setup and 8kg front / 6kg rear on their "track" setup http://www.hks-86.com/suspension.htm just another data point.

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