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Old 06-04-2014, 08:55 AM   #57
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Ok so lets just do a "I did it myself" comparison:

Nameless header (ceramic coated): $1500
Nameless axleback & overpipe combo (2.5inch with resonator): $1150.
The cosworth is a 3" front/over pipe with a helmholtz : $864, and a 3" cat back (replacing the mid-pipe, and looks like adding a muffler to it): price?. So your figures aren't quite accurate.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:40 AM   #58
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Ok as some had pointed out my estimate was off so here is an updated version with the like for like parts:

Nameless header (ceramic coated): $1500
Nameless full 3" headerback with helmholtz resonator and mufflers: $1849
ECU tune (cable + lic + file): $825 (maybe add $300 more if you want it custom on a dyno?)
Air Filter: $50
Thermostat: $100

Total: $4324 (shelf tune) or $4624 (dyno tune)

Cosworth 1.3 retail: $5250

Difference: $926 or $626

Honestly though, for anyone staying NA my original 2.5 comparison is a better one. 3" is unnecessary for NA and if you look at the reviews from people who have purchased the 3" nameless exhausts many have said it is very loud and raspy to the point of making them unhappy with their purchase.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:51 PM   #59
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So... let me get this straight... for $1400 more I get almost the same HP gain as I did with my FP, CBE, and drop in setup... sounds like a deal to me

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Old 06-04-2014, 12:56 PM   #60
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I have the 3" nameless Axleback with 4" mufflers,
it can be loud but isnt always, and quites right down when at low rpms cruising on the highway for example, I am still very happy with my purchase...
Thats just me tho... and its the only exhaust change I have, so other pipes could possibly make it a little out of control
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I understand the premium you pay for parts made by Cosworth, but that doesn't mean I would be on board personally.I can see this appealing to people where money isn't as important as "turn key" style performance packages that are reliable.

My assumption in the higher Stages will be that fit, finish, and quality will be second to none. No random leaks or niggles to track down.
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I understand the premium you pay for parts made by Cosworth, but that doesn't mean I would be on board personally.I can see this appealing to people where money isn't as important as "turn key" style performance packages that are reliable.

My assumption in the higher Stages will be that fit, finish, and quality will be second to none. No random leaks or niggles to track down.

They are rebadged nameless parts for stage 1.

So you are literally paying a premium because they slapped a cosworth badge on it.

as far as future stages (2 and 3). Lets see if they actually do any R&D or just rebrand items.
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They are rebadged nameless parts for stage 1.

So you are literally paying a premium because they slapped a cosworth badge on it.

as far as future stages (2 and 3). Lets see if they actually do any R&D or just rebrand items.
Are they the actual Nameless parts or just their own design made by Nameless? My assumption was that Nameless just made the stuff for them. If it's just 100% re-badged, then that's a total joke.

Sorry if this was already discussed in the thread, I skimmed over a few bits.
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Are they the actual Nameless parts or just their own design made by Nameless? My assumption was that Nameless just made the stuff for them. If it's just 100% re-badged, then that's a total joke.



Sorry if this was already discussed in the thread, I skimmed over a few bits.

Actual Namesless with Cosworth on it
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Are they the actual Nameless parts or just their own design made by Nameless? My assumption was that Nameless just made the stuff for them. If it's just 100% re-badged, then that's a total joke.

Sorry if this was already discussed in the thread, I skimmed over a few bits.

From the video it looks exactly like rebadged nameless parts. Of course until someone actually gets their hands on an item, we cannot be sure.

But the header has the same crazy bend. and the catback exhaust seems to be identical in design.
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Are they the actual Nameless parts or just their own design made by Nameless? My assumption was that Nameless just made the stuff for them. If it's just 100% re-badged, then that's a total joke.

Sorry if this was already discussed in the thread, I skimmed over a few bits.
I know for a fact the header is exactly the same
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That's actually a total joke then.

Cosworth should spend more money on R&D and less on fancy CGI promo videos
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A lot of tuners own openports. 300 or so for a tune and no hardware or license necessary. Some of you guys seem obsessed with overpricing tunes. Weird. Ecutek is awesome if you need it but most people don't.
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From the video it looks exactly like rebadged nameless parts. Of course until someone actually gets their hands on an item, we cannot be sure.

But the header has the same crazy bend. and the catback exhaust seems to be identical in design.
The catback is a completely new design for sure. Nameless doesn't offer a catback, and never had one, so this is a new design. Looks like larger mufflers, probably to quiet down the header more.


I'm very interested in that catback, especially since I already have the header.


And the header torque dip correction is other-worldly. Just grab the nameless header, find a way to grab the cosworth catback, and get it tuned. You get the best of both worlds
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The catback is a completely new design for sure. Nameless doesn't offer a catback, and never had one, so this is a new design. Looks like larger mufflers, probably to quiet down the header more.


I'm very interested in that catback, especially since I already have the header.


And the header torque dip correction is other-worldly. Just grab the nameless header, find a way to grab the cosworth catback, and get it tuned. You get the best of both worlds

Its just a mid pipe. :p
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