Cosworth Power Package/Parts Teased

[jeebus]

such a deal!

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Decay107

The picture earlier in this thread distinctly shows a 4-2-1 header design, and while the other exhaust components are specific to the Cosworth package, the header is identical to Nameless in fit, form, and function

You're correct, it is a 4-2-1.

However the internal and external heat treatment won't be on most Nameless manifolds Having not seen a Nameless manifold I can't comment on whether they are the same, we were told they were exclusive. It may well be the coating that's exclusive as that makes a fair difference.

As for pricing, it quite....er.... Interesting isn't it?! There were quite a few jaws dropping on reveal.

However I spent some time with their lead engineer and we saw a FA20 on an engine dyno. They have evaluated the whole engine and was interesting discussing their findings. They have used full engine development software based on an engine tear down to get dimensions and specs etc.

The things that stick out in memory:
-Stock airbox is good for at least 300bhp
-the main resonator does help for NA cars, the others make no difference and the sound generator does affect performance.
-The air feed/snorkel is not a restriction.
-Cams aren't worthwhile

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

-the main resonator does help for NA cars, the others make no difference and the sound generator does affect performance.
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Questions if I may:
Main resonator meaning which one?
The sound generator affects performance in what way?

[Decay107]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

You're correct, it is a 4-2-1.

However the internal and external heat treatment won't be on most Nameless manifolds Having not seen a Nameless manifold I can't comment on whether they are the same, we were told they were exclusive. It may well be the coating that's exclusive as that makes a fair difference.

As for pricing, it quite....er.... Interesting isn't it?! There were quite a few jaws dropping on reveal.

However I spent some time with their lead engineer and we saw a FA20 on an engine dyno. They have evaluated the whole engine and was interesting discussing their findings. They have used full engine development software based on an engine tear down to get dimensions and specs etc.

The things that stick out in memory:
-Stock airbox is good for at least 300bhp
-the main resonator does help for NA cars, the others make no difference and the sound generator does affect performance.
-The air feed/snorkel is not a restriction.
-Cams aren't worthwhile

That will be VERY interesting to see then, I assume the main resonator is the largest one off to the left of the intake box? The header comes very close to it and I nearly melted it with all the idling I did at my last autocross. i was just going to drill out the rivets and remove it, but now I'll have are think if it actually affects performance (I assume it is mostly in low end torque). For reference I have the nameless header (coated) and the one in the Cosworth video looks to be the same.

[Ernie L]

Originally Posted by jeebus

such a deal!

In the UK the price of an FT86 starts at 42,094.40 US Dollars. Everything that moves is shockingly more expensive in the UK than the US.. I don't know why that is. Perhaps to discourage the peasants from owing private transport.(shrug)
http://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/gt86

I would suspect the price of the cosworth stage 1 to somewhat less than the Uk price. Perhaps even half.

[ProjectGT86]

Originally Posted by 350matt

Chaps

looks like Cosworth might have something for sale soon

someones going to spend 4000 pounds (6700) USD to only get 30 BRAKE horsepower, and some asthetics

[ProjectGT86]

Originally Posted by Ernie L

In the UK the price of an FT86 starts at 42094.40 US Dollars. Everything that moves is shockingly more expensive in the UK than the US.. I don't know why that is. Perhaps to discourage the peasants from owing private transport.(shrug)
http://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/gt86

I would suspect the price of the cosworth stage 1 to somewhat less than the Uk price. Perhaps even half.

because British money is worth more and they get paid the same numeric amount we do except in their more valuable money, so the people with the same jobs as we do over here can afford the GT86

[MAPerformance]

Originally Posted by ProjectGT86

someones going to spend 4000 pounds (6700) USD to only get 30 BRAKE horsepower, and some asthetics

I can tell you the stage 1.3 package is not even close to $6700. It's not cheap either (same price as our turbo kit) but not that expensive.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by ProjectGT86

because British money is worth more and they get paid the same numeric amount we do except in their more valuable money, so the people with the same jobs as we do over here can afford the GT86

Nice one!

The US is the promised land of vehicle ownership. It's not as cheap anywhere else in the whole world. If we all honestly knew how good we had it, we'd probably all be driving mustangs and vettes.

[FR-S Matt]

Unless this PD supercharger is reasonably priced and performs, I won't even consider.

The fact that the bolt on package with header costs as much as MAPerformance's turbo just ended this thread for me. Cosworth is a big time name and I understand paying for quality, but I don't see where the extra gains are to justify paying more for a pretty Cosworth badge.

[Panda Mao]

the only thing I know is going na on a 4 cyl is more costly $ per hp ratio than boost thats a known fact thats existed many moons ago so even if cosworth's prices are higher than other brands/parts dollar for dollar na is just expensive period

[Apoc]

I can see now why they were not forthcoming with Ecutek tuning to support their header.

[zooki]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

However I spent some time with their lead engineer and we saw a FA20 on an engine dyno. They have evaluated the whole engine and was interesting discussing their findings. They have used full engine development software based on an engine tear down to get dimensions and specs etc.

The things that stick out in memory:
THIS >-Stock airbox is good for at least 300bhp

AND THIS >-The air feed/snorkel is not a restriction.

I think some some people will have a hard time believing this.

[cslntuee]

Originally Posted by MAPerformance

Not sure if I am allowed to put pricing in here. But you can PM me. Looks like they have three different stage 1 packages. Here is the breakdown of components:

Stage 1.1
Cosworth cat-back
Low temp theromostat
Cosworth drop in filter
Ecutek software and tune

Stage 1.2
All of the above and front pipe/overpipe combo

Stage 1.3
Everything in 1.2 and thermal coated header

Did these package approved by CARB?
I just moved to CA for my new job. ><
Thanks.