Losing control

[Mad1723]

Summer tires on snowy roads: Big no-no. You want a crashed car? That's how you get a crashed car.

[Rampage]

He must be worried about rain. I am pretty sure it never snows in Hong Kong.

[Mad1723]

Originally Posted by Rampage

He must be worried about rain. I am pretty sure it never snows in Hong Kong.

Well he mentionned snow, hence my comment.

In the wet, you have to be careful. In the winter, you need snow tires, full stop.

[Books]

You can't beat physics.

[USMC]

I live in South Florida, no issues here. Just saying. Stay safe.

[Derickie]

Originally Posted by byakko

Was going around a turn the other day the same speed as always -- kinda fast. Usually do fine in my daily but I guess the tires in the 86 couldn't hold and I did a skid. Had traction control on, too.

Those tires are both a curse and a blessing.

I think that happened to me, was driving on wet gravel after raining and the car basically lost control, not sure if it slid but my car is automatic with sports mode on, reacted differently as compared to normal mode. Basically car was out of balance, swaying left and right, traction control blinked crazily, tried my best to adjust her back to control, it was at a roundabout and there was a truck on my left, fucking scared the shit out of me lol.

The car is all stock, spare tyre removed, with front tower strut bar added, maybe it's imbalanced?

[J_kennington]

From my experience, if your "losing control" on the stock tires. Your doing something wrong. I've taken turns at double to triple the posted speed without an issue with nannies on and off. Tires have never broke loose without me knowingly making them. Now obviously for snow, this is a different story. The stock tires are NOT snow tires.

[Derickie]

Originally Posted by J_kennington

From my experience, if your "losing control" on the stock tires. Your doing something wrong. I've taken turns at double to triple the posted speed without an issue with nannies on and off. Tires have never broke loose without me knowingly making them. Now obviously for snow, this is a different story. The stock tires are NOT snow tires.

What's the posted speed?

[J_kennington]

Originally Posted by Derickie

What's the posted speed?

Anywhere from 25-45 posted for specific turns. (Not the streets speed limit, the individual turns posted "suggestion")

As a side note, me and a friend ran the tail of the dragon maintaining ~45-48mph with no loss of control in either car. And ran the skyway maintaining ~75-80mph with no loss of control.

Car specs:
Mine: stock 6AT with axle back.
His: stock 6MT with cat back

[Derickie]

Originally Posted by J_kennington

Anywhere from 25-45 posted for specific turns. (Not the streets speed limit, the individual turns posted "suggestion")

As a side note, me and a friend ran the tail of the dragon maintaining ~45-48mph with no loss of control in either car. And ran the skyway maintaining ~75-80mph with no loss of control.

Car specs:
Mine: stock 6AT with axle back.
His: stock 6MT with cat back

Okay, but in my scenario, is 25 mph acceptable for a Roundabout turn (http://www.drivers.com/img/articles/334_roundabout1.jpg)?

I didn't check my speedometer but I guess the car should be around or less than 25 mph for that particular turn on a wet gravel floor on sports mode, then it lost control wtf lol.

Unless traction control is reduced with sports mode on? I think what I did was.. 1) Automatic with sports mode on.. 2) Enter turn around 20-25mph.. 3) Accelerated when the car is turning halfway with the gravel floor wet.

Can't believe those lousy Primacy tyres lost grip because of that small acceleration in power, ridiculous.

[J_kennington]

Originally Posted by Derickie

Okay, but in my scenario, is 25 mph acceptable for a Roundabout turn (http://www.drivers.com/img/articles/334_roundabout1.jpg)?

I didn't check my speedometer but I guess the car should be around or less than 25 mph for that particular turn on a wet gravel floor on sports mode, then it lost control wtf lol.

Unless traction control is reduced with sports mode on? I think what I did was.. 1) Automatic with sports mode on.. 2) Enter turn around 20-25mph.. 3) Accelerated when the car is turning halfway with the gravel floor wet.

Can't believe those lousy Primacy tyres lost grip because of that small acceleration in power, ridiculous.

Eh, eh, I'll make everyone a deal that don't like the stock tires. I'll buy your set for 100 dollars.

And, if your an auto with only sport mode on, I would take it to the dealer, you should not be losing the nannies with just the "sport" mode on. You would at least need "vsc sport"

[Mossyjaw]

I felt like it almost got me in a wreck once when I made a mistake and someone was going a lot faster than I thought they were when I made a right turn. I was all like "go car" and my car was all like, "Whoa! what are trying to do?! unacceptable!"

[poison1916]

I pulled a 90 turn at 35mph after a big rain storm. In the dry weather I usually get a nice slide and even have to counter steer most nights. That night however I must a hit a particularly wet spot and spun out as soon as I tried to counter steer. I had nannies off and the car in manual mode (shifter to the left) with it locked in second gear. Did a nice 120* spin but the car found its grip pretty fast.

Full stock

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[Maowc]

Originally Posted by J_kennington

From my experience, if your "losing control" on the stock tires. Your doing something wrong. I've taken turns at double to triple the posted speed without an issue with nannies on and off. Tires have never broke loose without me knowingly making them. Now obviously for snow, this is a different story. The stock tires are NOT snow tires.

I agree. Only time I lost control was in an empty parking lot lol.