Losing control - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Derickie · 05-18-2014, 07:28 AM

Have anyone experienced losing control of your FRS/86 with stock tyres on a slippery or snowy twisty road despite traction assistance kicking-in only to save your car in the end somehow?

nyfries · 05-18-2014, 07:52 AM

Plenty of times

Tye300 · 05-18-2014, 08:31 AM

Yes I have.

13un · 05-18-2014, 08:45 AM

Yes, all the time.

badrad · 05-18-2014, 08:46 AM

I feel like this is not a car-specific event...

Demandred7 · 05-18-2014, 09:56 AM

Yes, but, now I turn off the nannies (short of doing the pedal dance). I'm pretty sure I do a better job.

enouf · 05-18-2014, 10:14 AM

Plenty of times, nearly ended up in a ditch once - just get better tires

wooly35 · 05-18-2014, 11:04 AM

It does it on purpose.

ZionsWrath · 05-18-2014, 11:18 AM

Once on a ramp the rear started to step out, I tried to give it more gas but the TC kicked in hard. I never had a car with TC before and as it took the power away from me I tried to give it more throttle and before I knew what happened I was stopped sideways on the ramp. I realized after it was the TC and had I lifted off the throttle a bit I probably wouldn't have almost binned it. Oh well live and learn.

byakko · 05-19-2014, 12:19 AM

Was going around a turn the other day the same speed as always -- kinda fast. Usually do fine in my daily but I guess the tires in the 86 couldn't hold and I did a skid. Had traction control on, too.

Those tires are both a curse and a blessing.

DragonDriver5 · 05-19-2014, 02:51 AM

I'm running stock tires with nannies on and have never had an issue.. and I've taken some pretty sharp corners even on gravel and still no problem with feeling out of control even in a slide. Seriously the easiest RWD car I have ever owned. With all the poor reviews on the tires I was expecting them to be bad and IMO they are fine

fatoni · 05-19-2014, 03:12 AM

It's more than likely driver error. I've had the back end come out maybe like twice when I wasn't paying attention but when I put my mind to it, there is quite a lot of grip. Enough for the street at least.

Guff · 05-19-2014, 03:20 AM

So you're asking if anybody had traction problems on snow because they are on summer tires?

Okay.

Sarlacc · 05-19-2014, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derickie

Have anyone experienced losing control of your FRS/86 with stock tyres on a slippery or snowy twisty road despite traction assistance kicking-in only to save your car in the end somehow?

I've never lost control of my GT86 on public roads. I'd be terrified and ashamed if that ever happened.
I don't drive in snow on stock tyres, either. That's just plain stupid. I've got proper winter tyres for snow and ice conditions.

05-18-2014, 07:28 AM	#1
Derickie Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: Whiteout 86 2014 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 48 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Losing control Have anyone experienced losing control of your FRS/86 with stock tyres on a slippery or snowy twisty road despite traction assistance kicking-in only to save your car in the end somehow?

05-18-2014, 08:31 AM	#3
Tye300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 TRD Version AT Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 883 Thanks: 548 Thanked 599 Times in 283 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Yes I have. __________________ Vortech Supercharged Flex Fuel 86 TRD AT Visit my build thread here.

05-18-2014, 11:18 AM	#9
ZionsWrath Thanks Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 4,163 Thanks: 5,989 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Once on a ramp the rear started to step out, I tried to give it more gas but the TC kicked in hard. I never had a car with TC before and as it took the power away from me I tried to give it more throttle and before I knew what happened I was stopped sideways on the ramp. I realized after it was the TC and had I lifted off the throttle a bit I probably wouldn't have almost binned it. Oh well live and learn. __________________

05-19-2014, 02:51 AM	#11
DragonDriver5 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2014 FRS, 77 Celica, 88 Supra Turbo Location: Spokane Wa, Sandpoint Id Posts: 51 Thanks: 141 Thanked 22 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm running stock tires with nannies on and have never had an issue.. and I've taken some pretty sharp corners even on gravel and still no problem with feeling out of control even in a slide. Seriously the easiest RWD car I have ever owned. With all the poor reviews on the tires I was expecting them to be bad and IMO they are fine __________________ SPOTOC - Spokane Toyota Owners Club Toyota - Lexus - Scion https://www.facebook.com/spotoc

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05-18-2014, 07:52 AM	#2
nyfries Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 14 FRS Whiteout Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 423 Thanks: 159 Thanked 85 Times in 59 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Plenty of times

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13un Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: MA Posts: 25 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes, all the time.

05-18-2014, 08:46 AM	#5
badrad Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: like a maniac Location: 805 Posts: 37 Thanks: 6 Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I feel like this is not a car-specific event...

05-18-2014, 09:56 AM	#6
Demandred7 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2018 Camry XSE V6 Location: Breslau, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,094 Thanks: 1,041 Thanked 367 Times in 228 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes, but, now I turn off the nannies (short of doing the pedal dance). I'm pretty sure I do a better job.

05-18-2014, 10:14 AM	#7
enouf Mr. Grumpy Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 86 GT, Fuji Red, MT Location: Melbourne Posts: 242 Thanks: 360 Thanked 205 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Plenty of times, nearly ended up in a ditch once - just get better tires

05-18-2014, 11:04 AM	#8
wooly35 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2014 Scion FR-S LS3 Location: Kansas city, MO Posts: 178 Thanks: 168 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It does it on purpose.

05-19-2014, 12:19 AM	#10
byakko Junior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: '14 FR-S, '05 C320 Location: Louisiana Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Was going around a turn the other day the same speed as always -- kinda fast. Usually do fine in my daily but I guess the tires in the 86 couldn't hold and I did a skid. Had traction control on, too. Those tires are both a curse and a blessing.

05-19-2014, 03:12 AM	#12
fatoni Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430 Location: socal Posts: 4,416 Thanks: 599 Thanked 1,443 Times in 787 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's more than likely driver error. I've had the back end come out maybe like twice when I wasn't paying attention but when I put my mind to it, there is quite a lot of grip. Enough for the street at least.

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