Speed Bleeders - long term reliability

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Model Citizen

I have one of these. Its fantastic.

I use this over speed bleeders. Makes them useless since you still need to open/close them and this provides positive pressure the entire time. Very useful tool. Just make sure the adapter to the MC cap is tight...

[Fizz]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I use this over speed bleeders. Makes them useless since you still need to open/close them and this provides positive pressure the entire time. Very useful tool. Just make sure the adapter to the MC cap is tight...

Is it the Ford compatible cap that we need to suit our MC?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Fizz

Is it the Ford compatible cap that we need to suit our MC?

The Ford three tab cap is labeled as Ford/Import and I originally bought it for my WRX...it fits on the BRZ as well.


Short answer: Yes.

[qqzj]

Could somebody give us a link for everything that we need to buy for a power bleeder? It is a little confusing now that so many adapters/caps are mentioned. Thanks.

[JDKane527]

Originally Posted by qqzj

Could somebody give us a link for everything that we need to buy for a power bleeder? It is a little confusing now that so many adapters/caps are mentioned. Thanks.

You will need to order this for the main pump and brake reservoir cap adapter:
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KM5ME/ref=oh_details_o01_s01_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]Amazon.com: Motive Products Custom Ford Power Bleeder(0107) Ford 3 Tab: Automotive[/ame]

Use this for the clutch reservoir:
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A7UMW90/ref=oh_details_o01_s01_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]Amazon.com: Power Bleeder Adapter - Universal Round Adapter mot1101: Automotive[/ame]

If you want to get fancy with the connectors, use something like these:
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008V1XSPY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]Amazon.com: Colder PLCD17005 Acetal Tube Fitting, Coupler, Shutoff, In-Line, 1/4" Flow Coupler x 5/16" Barb: Industrial & Scientific[/ame]

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008V1U0UU/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]Colder PLCD22005 Acetal Tube Fitting, Insert, Shutoff, In-Line, 1/4" Insert x 5/16"Barb: Threaded Tube Fittings: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific[/ame]

Below is a link to what the Porsche guys are doing to use this power bleeder as a dry pump:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ethod-use.html

[TemeCal]

I have both the Motive PowerBleeder and Speed Bleeders. Hands down, I always prefer my Speed Bleeders. The PowerBleeder is a great tool, but hooking it up...filling the jug with brake fluid...pressurizing...removing the unused fluid...etc... is just a bigger pain than SpeedBleeders.

I use the Motive PowerBleeder on one of my cars still, but all my others have SpeedBleeders. I've had zero problems with them, even with my brakes being bled very frequently for track use. I've owned 8+ vehicles with SpeedBleeders installed, and never had an issue. Just be sure to buy the official SpeedBleeders, not the knock-offs.

[vroom4]

Put them on all 4 calipers of my speed3, one leaked right away. Wouldnt do it again.

[rice_classic]

Can't use motive bleeder for clutch, but you can use speed bleeders. makes clutch bleeding dandy.

[TemeCal]

Originally Posted by vroom4

Put them on all 4 calipers of my speed3, one leaked right away. Wouldnt do it again.

Did you have the genuine Speed Bleeders? I've had one set of knockoffs (Goodridge, Edelbrock, Russel, etc) and they leaked. Lots of complaints with the "other" brands.

[Model Citizen]

Originally Posted by qqzj

Could somebody give us a link for everything that we need to buy for a power bleeder? It is a little confusing now that so many adapters/caps are mentioned. Thanks.

http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/merch...Category_Code=

Originally Posted by Fizz

Is it the Ford compatible cap that we need to suit our MC?

I bought the Subaru one for my forester several years ago, works fine on this car

Originally Posted by TemeCal

I have both the Motive PowerBleeder and Speed Bleeders. Hands down, I always prefer my Speed Bleeders. The PowerBleeder is a great tool, but hooking it up...filling the jug with brake fluid...pressurizing...removing the unused fluid...etc... is just a bigger pain than SpeedBleeders.

Filling the bottle is doing it wrong. I've never once put any fluid in the bottle.

Top off reservoir, put on cap, pressurize (5-10psi), open bleeder, close bleeder. In cases where there's a lot of bleeding/flushing at a corner you may have to pump again.

I really like how it allows me to stay the hell out of the interior of the car with dirty hands.

[TemeCal]

Originally Posted by Model Citizen

Filling the bottle is doing it wrong. I've never once put any fluid in the bottle.

Top off reservoir, put on cap, pressurize (5-10psi), open bleeder, close bleeder. In cases where there's a lot of bleeding/flushing at a corner you may have to pump again.

I really like how it allows me to stay the hell out of the interior of the car with dirty hands.

Never heard that before. Even their instructions say to add up to 2 quarts:

http://www.motiveproducts.com/frame-instruct.htm

That would be more of a pain doing a full flush/replacement, having to depressurize...top off...repressurize...bleed...depressurize...top off...repressurize...bleed....etc.

You can not do a full flush with a few "top offs".

[Model Citizen]

Originally Posted by TemeCal

Never heard that before. Even their instructions say to add up to 2 quarts:

http://www.motiveproducts.com/frame-instruct.htm

That would be more of a pain doing a full flush/replacement, having to depressurize...top off...repressurize...bleed...depressurize...top off...repressurize...bleed....etc.

You can not do a full flush with a few "top offs".

I did a full flush the other night, it went just fine.

[TemeCal]

Originally Posted by Model Citizen

I did a full flush the other night, it went just fine.

I've done full flushes with both, and the speed bleeders are much easier and a LOT less messy. Not putting down the Motive, it's a great product. It's just not nearly as easy.

If you only topped off your reservoir once, I think YOU are doing it wrong. Your brake system takes a lot more than you're leading everyone to believe.

[Model Citizen]

Originally Posted by TemeCal

I've done full flushes with both, and the speed bleeders are much easier and a LOT less messy. Not putting down the Motive, it's a great product. It's just not nearly as easy.

If you only topped off your reservoir once, I think YOU are doing it wrong. Your brake system takes a lot more than you're leading everyone to believe.

Where did I say I only topped the reservoir once? Every bit of demonstration on how to use the kit makes it very clear not to run the reservoir dry as a priority and that is what I stated. The rear passenger obviously took a good bit of fluid and more pressure, the fronts less, this is common sense.

There was no mess, at least not outside of your standard bleeding into a container through a hose.


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