Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[Target70]

thanks for the FAQ, just a few thoughts.

l0aded: It might seem kind of silly but to be honest I consider it a mature product when a consolidated information page (maybe on first post) with the up to date information is available lol. There have been a bunch of changes that I'm not really 100% sure how the ESC works now. I believe I read it activates at 70% WOT but before heard it was 100% WOT.

Sojhinn: How does the system activate? Utilizing a pedal switch similar to what is used in nitrous systems, the system is activated when the throttle is compressed passed 70% of WOT. This switch can be adjusted if you would like an earlier or later activation.

I think l0aded was confused about the 70% or 100% throttle because from what I understand 70% on the accelerator peddle sends the same signal to the ECU as 100% or WOT. So that as long as you set the petal switch to activate at or above the 70% throttle, electronically there is no difference.
I don't know anything about tuning, but from what I have read in this thread, shiv's tune is set up to work in (closed loop?) which is the fuel map the ecu goes into at 70%-100% throttle. So if someone were to set the throttle switch to 50 or 60% couldn't that cause a problem?

Sojhinn: Rob designed the kit to be low cost and more importantly extremely reliable. If you would like to test any other options feel free to contact Rob or trying it out yourself.

maybe add something to the end about not being responsible for any damage to yourself, the esc, or your car if you experiment with different components.. I hate disclaimers too, but your above statement almost sounds like an encouragement, and the last thing anyone wants is: "I tried powering the ESC with my flux capacitor and it blew my engine, Rob should really pay for repairs because he said to feel free to test other options" ...

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Target70

thanks for the FAQ, just a few thoughts.

l0aded: It might seem kind of silly but to be honest I consider it a mature product when a consolidated information page (maybe on first post) with the up to date information is available lol. There have been a bunch of changes that I'm not really 100% sure how the ESC works now. I believe I read it activates at 70% WOT but before heard it was 100% WOT.

Sojhinn: How does the system activate? Utilizing a pedal switch similar to what is used in nitrous systems, the system is activated when the throttle is compressed passed 70% of WOT. This switch can be adjusted if you would like an earlier or later activation.

I think l0aded was confused about the 70% or 100% throttle because from what I understand 70% on the accelerator peddle sends the same signal to the ECU as 100% or WOT. So that as long as you set the petal switch to activate at or above the 70% throttle, electronically there is no difference.
I don't know anything about tuning, but from what I have read in this thread, shiv's tune is set up to work in (closed loop?) which is the fuel map the ecu goes into at 70%-100% throttle. So if someone were to set the throttle switch to 50 or 60% couldn't that cause a problem?

Sojhinn: Rob designed the kit to be low cost and more importantly extremely reliable. If you would like to test any other options feel free to contact Rob or trying it out yourself.

maybe add something to the end about not being responsible for any damage to yourself, the esc, or your car if you experiment with different components.. I hate disclaimers too, but your above statement almost sounds like an encouragement, and the last thing anyone wants is: "I tried powering the ESC with my flux capacitor and it blew my engine, Rob should really pay for repairs because he said to feel free to test other options" ...

Good points I will update these. But personally if you used the flux capacitor on the esc I am doubtful it would produce the needed 1.21 jiggawatts. (spelling to emphasize how it was pronounced).

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Target70

maybe add something to the end about not being responsible for any damage to yourself, the esc, or your car if you experiment with different components.. I hate disclaimers too, but your above statement almost sounds like an encouragement, and the last thing anyone wants is: "I tried powering the ESC with my flux capacitor and it blew my engine, Rob should really pay for repairs because he said to feel free to test other options" ...

As an attorney I can say that such a provision absolutely should be in there... and that it absolutely will not prevent Rob from getting sued.

It might prevent the person who filed suit from winning, though.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by TM

Haha, I'm pretty sure I have them connected. Wouldn't that be an open circuit? How was the compressor still able to drain the dump batteries?

If you don't have the dump pack connected properly it runs off the alternator...I don't remember the exact details but the indication is that the voltage will drop to 16 or 17 right off the bat when hitting it.

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[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by Target70

maybe add something to the end about not being responsible for any damage to yourself, the esc, or your car if you experiment with different components.. I hate disclaimers too, but your above statement almost sounds like an encouragement, and the last thing anyone wants is: "I tried powering the ESC with my flux capacitor and it blew my engine, Rob should really pay for repairs because he said to feel free to test other options" ...

I got it covered.


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[fenton]

Originally Posted by drewbot

Tried searching this massive thread, but, what do you think about fitting the OE battery with 1.5 dump pack in a bigger tray? I don't know how much more tray you could fit in the bay before it hits something else though....

It won't fit we tried it. You can get a slightly larger battery than the mini starter and still run the 1.5 but it gets pretty ugly. What rob has right now is the best option by far from a packaging and neatness perspective

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[Fast_Freddy]

Originally Posted by robwbright

Would you even believe it if he produced a time slip?

Oh, wait. I shouldn't feed the trolls, should I?

It would be very refreshing to see some actual evidence to back up some of the more improbable claims made in here daily.


Sadly Sojhinn has declined to offer any...

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

It would be very refreshing to see some actual evidence to back up some of the more improbable claims made in here daily.

Sadly Sojhinn has declined to offer any...

You don't consider Shiv's and fenton's dynos as actual evidence?

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

It would be very refreshing to see some actual evidence to back up some of the more improbable claims made in here daily.


Sadly Sojhinn has declined to offer any...

I'll get some 0 to 60s in the next month.

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[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

It would be very refreshing to see some actual evidence to back up some of the more improbable claims made in here daily.


Sadly Sojhinn has declined to offer any...

Since you wanted a time slip I did not bother responding since I could not produce it. All I have is what I've stated. Which I updated due to bad memory. The video of 0-60 runs have been posted somewhere in this thread, and Im not going searching.

But if you want feel free to send me some money and I'll be happy to do some runs for you.

[Target70]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Good points I will update these. But personally if you used the flux capacitor on the esc I am doubtful it would produce the needed 1.21 jiggawatts. (spelling to emphasize how to was pronounced).

ehh. it'll be fine, just grab some plutonium from the corner drug store.

[Sojhinn]

I added the FAQ at the top. I did not add the disclaimer but I did remove the modifying bit. I'll update it here too.

[Fast_Freddy]

Originally Posted by robwbright

You don't consider Shiv's and fenton's dynos as actual evidence?

I fail to see how Shiv's and Fenton's dyno results substantiate Sojhinn's claim of running 0-60 in the low 5 second range.

Originally Posted by fenton

I'll get some 0 to 60s in the next month.

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Thank you.

[enwave]

Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

I fail to see how Shiv's and Fenton's dyno results substantiate Sojhinn's claim of running 0-60 in the low 5 second range.




Thank you.

People have gotten 6.1-6.3 stock with a good launch. I don't think low 5s is completely absurd with the area under the curve as good as it is and a good driver. It is probably a little fast though -- and he walked it back and said more like mid-5s or high 5s.


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