Anyone running stock rims with good tires for open track?

[Vis101]

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[becauseracecar1]

Originally Posted by smbstyle

I ran the OEM Primacys then PSS on the stock rims.

Primacy's were terrible, the PSS weren't bad for the first few days, but they fell off quick. Outside shoulder was corded with -1.5* camber up front, with still almost perfect tread in the middle. I was surprised how much camber is needed to get these to wear evenly as a street tire.

They were pretty quiet when they had grip, but as grip fell off, they got NOISY, to the point where my friend had a GoPro inside his M3 with exhaust, was following me through a corner, and you could actually hear my tires screaming about 50 yards in front of him, lol.

Go to 4:04 in this video and listen to the PSS screaming for their life:

What iphone mount are you using? Is it linked to a track day app connected to obd 2? Thanks!!


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[Pat]

I agree with everything Porsche has to say. Follow his advice. When you feel like you've gotten the most out of the car in that trim, start adding go-fast bits one at a time. You'll appreciate every one of them and learn a lot in the process. It'll make you a better driver in the long run, too.

[icemang17]

as a new to driving on track driver....the single best thing you can do is LEARN...from instructors.... improving the driver is the best investment you can make worlds better than any mod you can buy.... Once your ability overcomes an aspect of the car (brakes probably) then you upgrade that....and so on....

Don't fall into the mod trap....look at it this way....lets have two identical rookie on track drivers....with a given budget of XXXX....one guy spends 90% on parts and 10% on learning how to drive....the other is the exact opposite....after all the money is spent who will be the faster driver....I know the answer.....been there done that....

[stoked_on_spool]

If it helps at all, I just got back from my first HPDE. Not just first in this car, but first ever.

I was in the same boat as you and wanted to find the best suitable combo for my first time out on the track and ultimately decided to go completely stock for everything. Realizing that I am not in the position experience and performance wise myself to justify buying performance parts to "upgrade" the track readiness of my car. My inconsistencies in driving line, steering input, throttle etc would far outweigh the second a lap I may have gained by doing some wheels/tires beforehand with my experience level, and wouldn't make the experience any more/less fun and engaging.

All of that being said, I had SOOO much fun out on the track!!! The car handles excellent and has phenomenal feedback even on the stock tires. It lets you know when you're pushing too hard, when it starts to lose some traction (all traction/stability control still on of course), and when you get in a solid lap and proper lines, the car lets you know and you can be proud.

Spend the money you're saving right now on track time with instructors who know how to handle lighter cars and the lines they drive with them, buy an extra set of stock wheels/tires if you're scared of using the tires all up on the track if you're going often. Learn on these tires and then upgrade as your skills improve, at least thats what i'm doing!

All I can say is that I'm definitely addicted and can't wait to get back out there!!

Hope this kind of helps. lol

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by stoked_on_spool

If it helps at all, I just got back from my first HPDE. Not just first in this car, but first ever.

I was in the same boat as you and wanted to find the best suitable combo for my first time out on the track and ultimately decided to go completely stock for everything. Realizing that I am not in the position experience and performance wise myself to justify buying performance parts to "upgrade" the track readiness of my car. My inconsistencies in driving line, steering input, throttle etc would far outweigh the second a lap I may have gained by doing some wheels/tires beforehand with my experience level, and wouldn't make the experience any more/less fun and engaging.

All of that being said, I had SOOO much fun out on the track!!! The car handles excellent and has phenomenal feedback even on the stock tires. It lets you know when you're pushing too hard, when it starts to lose some traction (all traction/stability control still on of course), and when you get in a solid lap and proper lines, the car lets you know and you can be proud.

Spend the money you're saving right now on track time with instructors who know how to handle lighter cars and the lines they drive with them, buy an extra set of stock wheels/tires if you're scared of using the tires all up on the track if you're going often. Learn on these tires and then upgrade as your skills improve, at least thats what i'm doing!

All I can say is that I'm definitely addicted and can't wait to get back out there!!

Hope this kind of helps. lol

That's gonna be my approach this season! Stock everything with maybe the exception of upgraded front pads.

[Griever423]

225/45/17 Dunlop ZII's are cheaper (156 a tire on tirerack) than the advans and also a good dual duty tire. They're up there with the RS3 but are much better when cold and in the wet. Downside is they do tend to get greast when hot after multiple laps.

They'll be what I buy for my car for sure when I upgrade. I'm with others though, burn up those stock tires first and then upgrade. You'll appreciate the upgrade that much more when you do.

[ShoShin]

Originally Posted by Griever423

225/45/17 Dunlop ZII's are cheaper (156 a tire on tirerack) than the advans and also a good dual duty tire. They're up there with the RS3 but are much better when cold and in the wet. Downside is they do tend to get greast when hot after multiple laps.

They'll be what I buy for my car for sure when I upgrade. I'm with others though, burn up those stock tires first and then upgrade. You'll appreciate the upgrade that much more when you do.

Hey Suavey. I run 225/45/17 RS-3s on dem fugly stockers.

I agree with Griever and others who believe running the stock tires first is the way to go. That's what I did (albeit without knowing any better) Just take it nice and easy on the first day at the track. Stay busy - get ride alongs, or have a skilled driver take your car out and ride shotgun so you can see what the tires are capable of in the hands of skillz. Then go from there. I had tons of fun on my first track day. Was lucky enough to have CSG Mike do a couple of laps in my car, laps he would call "normal" to my astonishment. Was mind-blown, then proceeded to set my fastest laps of the day.

[eddieflyinv]

Old thread but bump for great information, I had my first lapping day last weekend, stock car besides tune and exhaust,
Track was about 3.7km of connected runways, and a very fast track to learn on, I honestly wouldn't have had it any other way than learning the limits of stock tires on stock suspension, learned a lot about this car that day
This group let us go as much as we or our car could handle, and after the first 3 laps with traction on, the next 5 were in VCS sport mode, and the following 60+ all traction off. (Stopped counting laps lol)
Amazing experience, the tires were loud at their limit, which made learning how hard they can be pushed very easy,
By the end of the day, yes I know for a fact stickier tires and better brakes are required for more aggressive driving, but I know that having pushed this car as hard as I could and realizing where I wanted to make changes, it was a great experience,
Speeds reaching 170+km/h on the rear straight to 3 quick corners to another 750m straight with speeds of 160+ ... brakes held up pretty well I'd say actually, by the end of the day I was noticing more prominent fading braking out of those long straights, (relitivelty consistent 160-180kmh to about 80-90kmh slowdowns for corner entry)
Man did I have fun lol 150+ through the slalom was probably the most fun, it was just a blast
Stock tires held up incredibly well at those speeds I think, and I was doing 10+ laps at a time without coming off,
They got very slick by the end of the day, a combination of me pushing harder and them heating up a lot, but i was fully expecting to replace them after this anyways so I didn't care lol
After 4.5 hours on the track (actual time spent on there) the rear tires now have about 1mm left before hitting that wear marker between the treads, front are about 2mm better,

Going to upgrade with some Dunlop DZ102 and enter the final CSCS Time Attack event on the 21st of this month, not expecting to win, but it's a different track and I'm just going to have fun for the most part